Roy Jones Junior is a Shot Fighter: My View

[THE REED]

Roy is finished.
Accept it & move on.
The trinidad fight means NOTHING.
Tito has NEVER been a LHW or even close to 168.
Win lose or draw it means sweet FA.

your so biased its unbelievable... you hate on roy at any given chance... given from a guy who rooted for ricky hatton, whose country came to ours and booed our own national anthem... your just upset your little beer buddy got turnbuckle syndrome, and floyd shut up your ENTIRE country... and oh yes... your other fav fighter... joe calzaghe... a fighter who never wouldhave had a career if roy were to have never left supermiddlweight... who has TWO name fighters on his resume, one of which is a barely proven lacy.... decides to fight peter **** manfredo in his 41st undefeated record... and NOW wants to fight 43 yr old bernard hopkins....

what did you say about roy? if he wins who cares, if he loses who cares? if joe beats a 43yr old hopkins? who cares? if he gets beat? HAHAAHAHAHHAAH... keep your misinformed, close minded, unreasonably biased and unexplained opinions to yourself

[Greatwhitehope]

Great point made by thread maker.

[Allucard]

Great point indeed.

[moofo]

your so biased its unbelievable... you hate on roy at any given chance... given from a guy who rooted for ricky hatton, whose country came to ours and booed our own national anthem... your just upset your little beer buddy got turnbuckle syndrome, and floyd shut up your ENTIRE country... and oh yes... your other fav fighter... joe calzaghe... a fighter who never wouldhave had a career if roy were to have never left supermiddlweight... who has TWO name fighters on his resume, one of which is a barely proven lacy.... decides to fight peter **** manfredo in his 41st undefeated record... and NOW wants to fight 43 yr old bernard hopkins....

what did you say about roy? if he wins who cares, if he loses who cares? if joe beats a 43yr old hopkins? who cares? if he gets beat? HAHAAHAHAHHAAH... keep your misinformed, close minded, unreasonably biased and unexplained opinions to yourself

What is biased about the fact Roy is done?
HE IS FINISHED.
And the FACT is YOU ARE BIASED TO ROY JONES YOU ****ING FRUIT.
It's the truth and if you don't see that then you are deluded.
The guy has NOTHING left.
If he did he wouldn't be fighting Prince Jaffe joffe , Hanshaw or a tired inactive Tito who operated best at 147.
What the **** has me "rooting" for Hatton got to do with anything??
Anyone would think Hatton wasn't even slightly competitive and I accepted that he got beaten by the better fighter albeit he was forced to fight outside his best weight limit at 147.
I wasn't in the crowd booing your national anthem either so you can **** off with that **** as well.
Get a ****ing grip anyway what are you 5 years old??
It is not my fault you people are brainwashed to think the USA is the greatest nation on earth.
The fact is most of you are just IGNORANT of the world around you.
As for Joe Calzaghe I couldn't give 2 ****s about him he is WELSH anyway.
And just because YOU THINK Roy would have beaten him doesn't actually MEAN HE WOULD HAVE BEATEN HIM.
Roy is and always was a Cherry picker.
He was a pioneer for all the duckers of the modern game with his bull****.
Like I said who cares if Roy beats TITO?
It proves NOTHING.
Take Roy's balls out of your mouth for a minute and you may see that.
But then again....

[moofo]

[QUOTE=ree****yaluss;3038005]Let me quote someone



To honestly say that roy jones moving up from 154 to fight a prime 28 year old Bernard Hopkins

Roy weighed 164 in his fight prior to Slopkins by the way.

[moofo]

Thanks for taking me off ignore Rob Jr.
Like care what you 2 nuthuggers think.



Roy is FINISHED.
And it's not my fault haha.

[TheGreatA]

Let me quote someone



To honestly say that roy jones moving up from 154 to fight a prime 28 year old Bernard Hopkins (22-1-0) at the 22nd fight of his career for the vacant ibf middleweight title is not a "challenge"?... To say then 5 fights later he moved up yet again to 168 pounds to fight the ibf super middlweight champion and pound for pound best at the time with a 44-0-2 record, and literally toy with him...knocking him down in the 3rd... is not a "challenge"?... To say then 7 fights later he moved up in weight, again... for the 175 pound light heavyweight WBC light interim title, against a proven 49-3-1 mike mccallum, and knock him down in the 10th? and say thats not a challenge? and then the next fight we have montell griffin, someone who finally can box with roy jones... someone who gave him resistance, got DQ... gave an immediate rematch and KOed him the 1st round, wasnt any kind of challenge? then to collect all the belts... with absolutely no problems... wasnt any kind of challenge? not a little bit...

I'll have to point out some mistakes in this:
Hopkins wasn't prime, he had only been boxing actively for 3 years and hadn't faced any top opposition before the fight.
Roy Jones didn't come up from 154, he had actually already beaten top contenders and former title challengers in the 160 lb weight-class. He had also fought as high as 164 lbs against Glenn Wolfe.

James Toney wasn't regarded as the pound for pound best, Pernell Whitaker was. Toney had lots of close decisions go his way and had a history of being very inconsistent but the impressive performance against Barkley made people think he was unstoppable at 168 lbs.

Mike McCallum was proven but he was a 40-year old, natural light middleweight fighting at LHW. He had already lost to Fabrice Tiozzo.

Also Roy Jones didn't collect all the belts, in fact he never fought the linear light heavyweight champion Dariusz Michalczewski who had the WBO belt (and had won the unified IBF&WBA titles from Virgil Hill but dropped those titles).

I agree with lot of what you say about the weight-drain but Roy Jones is 40 years old, the only boxers I could see him fighting are other 40 year olds, Johnson and Hopkins.

[moofo]

He was trying to duplicate what Bob Fitzsimmons did 106 years earlier...

And he failed because Bob beat the TRUE HW Champ.
Roy fought a "Title" holder and you ignore that Lennox Lewis was active and the real HW champ.

[moofo]

Fights like this one kill ring credibility

By MURRAY GREIG, EDMONTON SUN

If you need any further proof of boxing's penchant for shooting itself in the foot, look no further than Madison Square Garden one week from tomorrow.

That's when 39-year-old Roy Jones Jr. will temporarily come off life support and attempt to resucitate his Hall of Fame career in a sham of a fight against 35-year-old Felix Trinidad at the catch weight of 170 pounds.

Not even ubiquitous promoter Don King can make this one smell pretty.

Earlier this week King breathlessly proclaimed the bout "as big as when (George) Foreman fought (Muhammad) Ali in the Rumble in the Jungle." In truth, the $50 pay-per-view ain't even as big as Foreman vs. Steve Zouski.

The mixed martial arts guys love this kind of sleight-of-hand -- especially at a time when boxing was starting to pull some of its old audience out of the MMA quagmire with some legitimately compelling bouts on the horizon.


Jones vs. Trinidad would've fallen under that heading a decade ago. Now it's just an embarrassment.

Jones was once the best pound-for-pound puncher on the planet. An IBF world champion at middlweight, super middleweight and light heavyweight, he also briefly owned the WBA heavyweight crown after beating John Ruiz in 2003.

His glory days are long gone, however. Since Antonio Tarver took less than five minutes to knock him out in '04, Jones has been KO'd twice en route to losing three of five.

His record of 51-4 belies the fact that his once vaunted speed can now be clocked with a sundial and his reflexes are about as sharp as a cardboard hacksaw.

Meanwhile, Trinidad (42-2) is a five-time world champ with a career KO ratio of 80%, but he's coming off a fearsome beating at the hands of Winky Wright. That was Trinidad's last fight -- and it was nearly three years ago. He's fought exactly twice since 2002.

"I have too much boxing left inside of me, and I want to show that I am still one of the the best fighters in the world," Trinidad told HBO last week. "I feel good at this weight, and it's going to be a great fight."

The hype spewed by Jones was equally vapid: "We both have bombs in our tank and we're phenomenal boxers on top of that. We are both powerful punchers, and it will depend on who gets there first. I will guarantee this, and you can count on it: this will be a superfight that delivers the goods.

"We're going to give fight fans exactly what they expect to see."

Sadly, he's exactly right.

[Truth]

ree****yaluss is the truth.


Alot of people say it was Roy getting off the steroids and thats why he had such a dramatic decline. But theres really no actual proof to prove that, and you have to take into account he was nearing 35 and waited to a couple weeks before the fight to take the weight off. Also add on the fact that Tarver is much tougher opponent than Ruiz(due to overall skills). Then in the rematch Roy just got caught with perfect counter shot, after that I think he lost his confidence for a while.(in the ring) I think he fights less worried about getting knocked out now that hes won a couple fights again. I'm looking for a great performance on Saturday.