What Floyd Will Do To Cotto

[warp1432]

It's because how highly Ricky Hatton was regraded is why it's more impressive then the domination of Judah, especially when Judah had a loss to Mayweather previously before that.

Ricky Hatton was undefeated and was the person who's style was "the right style to beat floyd or give him hell" Sure Mayweather was favored to win....by decision.

And Cotto barely edged out a win over Mosley. Mayweather beat him comfrontably. Sure a win over mosley could be argued it's more impressive, but he didn't beat him as comfrontably as Mayweather beat Oscar.

Seriously what was your scorecard for that fight?

And yeah Mosley was a hard hitter....at lower weight. Judah...what round did he knock out that guy on Friday night fights in september? Oh wait he didn't....

And for the record I've never discredited a fighter Mayweather has faced, and I'm not Cotto. Just pointing out the bull**** your spitting.

[MaYaN_SuN]

Emphasizing Cotto's defense is futile since his defense isn't what won those fights. He took shots to give more. Floyd hits and doesn't get hit, there's a difference. Those two fighters aren't very accurate punchers as it is.

lol The whole point of my posts were about Cotto's defense! And how Cotto is no Gatti or Hatton. I mean seriously, whose ****in posts are you reading? I mean you're replying to me, but why? lol This isn't about Mayweathers D compared to Cotto's D.

And in order to hit and not be hit, YOU HAVE TO HIT. Mayweather's gonna muscle his way through Cotto's D? Mosley ****** for dear life against those gloves to put Cotto to sleep to no avail, and Mosley hits harder then Floyd. Floyds gonna muscle through that? lol Really? This is all gonna be a cakewalk for Floyd? lol Seriously?

This fight, if it takes place, is gonna be more even then you think.

I know you dont understand that, being that you and your team of dumb ****s said "Hatton was more of a threat to Mayweather then Cotto"

But trust me, if these 2 fight, it'll be an actual fight.

No, the dumb ass is you for comparing them.. They are all completely different fighters and Floyd beat one of them pretty easily.

Remember that thing I said about repeating myself, lol yeah, that applys here too. I mean if you're too slow to understand my posts and have problems understanding what I'm saying, I suggest actually reading what I type, or even better, if you're havin trouble, don't even reply at all lol.

He barley took Judah's shots when he WAS hit and almost got KOed! After that, Judah just stopped punching. Mosley had him bleeding, and neither of these guys are as ACCURATE as Floyd is.

He almost got Knocked down, Not KO'ed. Almost getting KO'ed is when you barely beat the count lol..I'm just sayin.

You have to hit someone to hurt them, hitting hard isn't enough

lol By that logic, someone like Malinagi should have a vicious KO streak...lmao thats brilliant logic there sport. Logic like that, who needs school and lessons and books and...school..haha

and none of them hit Cotto enough to test his chin like Torres, Corley, and others did..

But Mayweather will? I'm sorry, but NOW I'M CONFUSED!..lol

LOL @ you overexaggerating Judah and Mosley's power. I mean, they aren't exactly knock out artists, one was 36 and the other couldn't hurt Baldo, or Floyd at all, so wtf? Floyd doesn't win fights with power, are you an idiot? He's a better fighter than both these guys and is a better fighter than Cotto, all around (defense, speed/reflexes, focus, ring generalship, etc

Well, they are some of the hardest hitters Cotto's chin went up against at WW. Not to mention they both hit harder then Floyd..lol ****, I'm repeating myself..

But you're not even stayin on track, you're just rambling on about nothing lol. So again, with Mayweathers only chance at generating enough power when his feet are set, you really dont think Cotto's quick shots have a chance? God damn it, I'm doing it again.

...this is why I don't like posting with morons

No, only that Floyd is better than him, which I already knew. He just may be better than just about everyone else around his weight seeing as how Floyd is p4p #1.

Wow..lol Mayweather hasn't knocked anyone out walking backwards since he was at lightweight, and he gets away with it against Hatton, and you can't see that Hatton was over hyped to begin with? Why do you have eyes if your not going to use them?

Collazo almost did the same...just a lil FYI. A lil "for your information." A lil input, just a lil "info."

Not nearly.. He stunned Hatton in the very last round after getting beat the entire night. Conversely, Floyd was beating Hatton all night and stopped him in the 8th with 1 punch.

Yeah, thanks sport. We saw the fight, Collazo had Hatton on ***** street. We know lol..But thanks.

In other words, you're being a clown and have no response, so I take that as a point unrefuted.

You could have taken it as a gift, but ok. lol point unrefuted.

doesn't address anything I said.

Well, now you know how it feels

Stop being a hypocrit whe all you're going to do is go right back to talking about what Mosley and Judah couldn't do as if it has any bearing on Floyd Mayweather.

That's how we determine the outcome of fights buddy, We take in account what happen in the pastttt, and thennnn, we try to determine what might happen in the future.

In this case, Mosley and Judah being harder hitters then Mayweather, couldn't get the job done on Cotto's shakey chin. And both Judah and Mosley are pretty fast, Cotto handled the speed well, andddddd I'd say he has a good chance at gettin past Mayweather too

Why the use of anaphora? You seem fake and are over doing it.

Anaphora? Isn't that some sort of cream for ******* disease?

Cotto and gatti are nothing alike, I've never compared them, but I just notice a lot of people bringing that fight as a point of ridicule like it means something or takes away.

If you never compared them, and I'm talkin about people who obviously did..(you see where I'm goin with this?)

WHY THE **** ARE YOU RESPONDING TO ME WITH QUESTIONS!? lol Seriously

But yeah, given the fact you're not even coherant on what I was talkin about to begin with...you can forgive me if I'm not takin you serious right now lol

Actually, I'm asking YOU questions, trying to figure out what goes on in that strange mind of your.

I'm flattered..But I'm not opened to any interviews right now. Had a long day, my body's sore..

And just because I refused 1 interview, it doesnt make me a bad guy. So you can go straight to hell if you're gonna try to give me negative press


"oh he's a big shot, he's too cool for interviews, what a jerk!"

I swear on my life that you people cannot cooperate and answer questions like a man for ****. It only tells me that you people aren't on a level to debate anything with me, so I have no idea why some of you don't just ignore me since my logical way of getting to the bottom of things is obviously too intimidating. None of my questions ever get answered and I get insulted because they're too ****** to answer their own nonsense.

Again, why do you keep bringing up Judah when he was Floyd's leftovers?

Internet debating is for morons that like to run in circles for no apparent reason at all.

lol Example:

Exhibit A- The douche bag that knows someone isn't even talkin to him, but yet the douche bag insists on thinking that he is infact talkin to him and insists on thinking his input is a factor. Thus...Leaving the douche bag with a never ending of "why? why? why? why? why? why?" questions, creating no more then a pointless circle of words, for no reason.

Internet debating for reason, and debating for no reason= NO GOOD!

Again, why do you keep bringing up Judah when he was Floyd's leftovers?

You're havin a tough one with this one, arent'cha? lol

But I'm farely confident, if you re-read my posts...a couple hundred times. You'll be able to see why. It'll sink in. Don't be afraid to read and learn sonofisis, dont be afraid

Learning is like having super human powers to lift incredibly heavy stuff- G.I. JOES said that..

I also admit that maybe you should repeat yourself, but for your own benefit since you're probably the 2nd slowest in this thread, next to the 2501 character.

Oh' 2501, that son of a *****! He's always ahead of me in something!!!

Judah outweighs Oscar?!!!! Mosley outweighs Oscar? I'm done.. Nothing else to see here people, this guy's an idiot.

Ok Corky, This is the last thime I'm ever, ever! gonna help you understand. I'll even explain it like you're back in 4th grade.

Ok lil champ

-Puts a child size new york yankee cap on your infant head-

(I'm getting into full character for this...)

You ready to learn? JU REDY TO WURN, JU REDY? yeah, you're ready. Have a seat on my lap champ.

Lets say Judah and Mosley were on one dinner plate. And on the other Plate you have Oscar and Hatton. If you were to weigh them "skill-wise," despite how heavy Oscar is, both Judah and Mosley weigh more than Hatton and Oscar. You see? Hatton just doesn't weigh enough, You understand lil man?

-Gives you a lolipop and you hop off my lape and accidently run into traffic-

But no ones surprised. Cause you're dumb.


(so I just got done proof reading this, to check for lil mistakes, lol I cant stop laughin. But yeah, I feel kinda bad that I waisted a huge spot in 2501's thread.)


And guys, Don't start hating Cotto because of me LOL

I'm just ****in around with the morons..

[warp1432]

You don't understand. You're overrating Cotto's defense (even though it's decent), underrating Floyd's accuracy and probably his power even though he doesn't hit as hard as Mosley, and extremely extremely exaggerating Cotto's win over Mosley by saying he dominated him, when he didn't.

The Mosley win for Cotto is HUGE and impressive, but he didn't dominate him like you said. Seriously, what was your scorecard?

[Jim Jeffries]

In the 2 years before he fought Cotto, Mosley had back to back wins over Vargas, essentially ending his career, and dominated Collazo, who many thought beat Hatton in their fight.

In the 2 and a half years before DLH fought Floyd....... he had ONE fight, a win over Mayorga.

Then of course you have Mosley beating Oscar in their two HTH.

Judah was at least as big a threat as Hatton at WW, based on Ricky's single poor showing at that weight.

So yeah, Mosley + Judah more impressive than DLH + Hatton.

[MaYaN_SuN]

It's because how highly Ricky Hatton was regraded is why it's more impressive then the domination of Judah, especially when Judah had a loss to Mayweather previously before that.

Ricky Hatton was undefeated and was the person who's style was "the right style to beat floyd or give him hell" Sure Mayweather was favored to win....by decision.

And Cotto barely edged out a win over Mosley. Mayweather beat him comfrontably. Sure a win over mosley could be argued it's more impressive, but he didn't beat him as comfrontably as Mayweather beat Oscar.

Seriously what was your scorecard for that fight?

And yeah Mosley was a hard hitter....at lower weight. Judah...what round did he knock out that guy on Friday night fights in september? Oh wait he didn't....

And for the record I've never discredited a fighter Mayweather has faced, and I'm not Cotto. Just pointing out the bull**** your spitting.

Ricky Hatton was a hype-job. Anyone that gassed him up like a threat to Floyd was either delusional or trying to sell the fight.

lol I mean including myself, I can recall reading on this site atleast 3 or 4 people who had Mayweather by late KO. I'm sure there was more..

I mean if Collazo could sting Hatton, Mayweather was gonna finish him off. Hatton doesn't have D, and I personally think Hattons power is slighty over-rated. He doesn't have enough D or power to be fighting the greats the way he does. He can't even keep his quick bullrushes going for 12 without getting tired.

So, we've seen Hatton in serious trouble at the hands of Collazo, a slick Boxer.

We've seen the elite brilliance in Judah, and that Kasta KO was legit, but lets be serious lol, before that Knock Down Judah was landing flush on him. We saw Judah lose to Mayweather, but we also so glimpses of that elite skill against Mayweather early in the fight.

Eh, all in all...I think Cotto destroying Judah was more impressive then Hatton gettin KOed. If Mayweather didn't KO Hatton, any of the other top guys I think would have.

Cotto vs Mosley, it was close, but the clear winner was Cotto. I personally don't see how you can think Floyd's win over Oscar was a better performance then Cotto's against Mosley. I cant even beging to comprehend that.

Seein Mosley's head and body getttin tagged like that, as oppose to Mayweather unable to get past Oscar's gloves for a large portiant of the fight? Landing a few right hands a round for what? 3 rounds? I don't know, I didnt think it was that impressive. And to know some people had it a draw, and to know I wasn't the only one seein Floyd unable to get through Oscar's D....Just further convinces I know what I saw..


Cotto- Fighter of the year, great choice of compitition and great wins.

And I think he'd give Floyd a run for his money if they fought.

[MaYaN_SuN]

You don't understand. You're overrating Cotto's defense (even though it's decent), underrating Floyd's accuracy and probably his power even though he doesn't hit as hard as Mosley, and extremely extremely exaggerating Cotto's win over Mosley by saying he dominated him, when he didn't.

The Mosley win for Cotto is HUGE and impressive, but he didn't dominate him like you said. Seriously, what was your scorecard?

I'm not over-rating it. I'm sayin, its far stronger then Hatton and Gatti's, and that it's kept him safe from 2 of the hardest hitters in the WW division.

It's not great D, but it's good enough. Add that to his hand speed and how quick he is to get those gloves back up when he's about to be countered. I think it's good enough, and I think he can beat Mayweather. I'm not sayin he will, but he can. I honestly won't be surprised if he does it with ease either. I think Mosley was by far the biggest threat out of Judah, Mosley, and Mayweather.

[warp1432]

Have you ever pondered the thought that maybe that Oscar wasn't as shot as people were saying? He previously knocked out Mayorga and trained his ass off. He gave his toughest fight, but just wasn't good enough. Mayweather landed pretty cleanly too and got passed his defense.

Also anyone could say so and so was a hype job. Also Cotto had trouble with Torres and he won. Hatton had trouble with Collazo and won. I could easily say that Cotto is overrated because he had problems with Torres. I mean Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu and beat good people. Whther you refuse to believe it or not he wasn't a hype job. He lost to the best pound for pound fighter in the world.

**** I could say Mosley was a hypejob because he lost all his big fights except De La Hoya, who was "another hype job for beating an old JJC and an old Hector Camacho", and "so what if he beat Vargas. Vargas was ruined by DLH and Trinidad." See it's really easy to discredit a fighter.

Battering Judah was good, but he wasn't supposed to KO Hatton. He was supposed to box circles around him and UD him was the general conception. Insted he fought Hatton's fight and then ended up knocking him out. He showed a lot more diversity in skill and overcame that roughness Hatton brought and finished it.

Yes, beating Mosley looks better then Oscar, but I felt it was more "impressive" for Floyd because he beat him more soundly then Cotto beat Mosley. Likewise, it did a lot more for Cotto from a boxing fan's perspecitive because it proved his worthyness. I think Cotto deserves a shot at Mayweather and should fight him. Before the Mosley fight I'd say no, but Mosley sealed the deal. Though if he doesn't I won't say he's ducking Cotto either.

[Jim Jeffries]

Who else, besides Cotto is Floyd supposed to fight? A soon to be 35 year old DLH, who has lost 3 (arguably 4) of his last 5 fights? Floyd is recognized as the best fighter in the world and is still in his prime. Doesn't the boxing public deserve to see the best fight the best? After the 50 million or so that said public paid Floyd for his services last year, I would say Floyd owes us that.

[warp1432]

Who else, besides Cotto is Floyd supposed to fight? A soon to be 35 year old DLH, who has lost 3 (arguably 4) of his last 5 fights? Floyd is recognized as the best fighter in the world and is still in his prime. Doesn't the boxing public deserve to see the best fight the best? After the 50 million or so that said public paid Floyd for his services last year, I would say Floyd owes us that.

Well I wouldn't say he "owes" us anything, but from a fanstand point I definietly want to see it.

But yeah he is running out of options and I don't want to see him fight DLH again. I liked the first fight, but don't want to pay for the same result.

Also, Sun, it's funny how you discredit De La Hoya, but Cotto wants a huge payday with him.

[MaYaN_SuN]

Have you ever pondered the thought that maybe that Oscar wasn't as shot as people were saying? He previously knocked out Mayorga and trained his ass off. He gave his toughest fight, but just wasn't good enough. Mayweather landed pretty cleanly too and got passed his defense.

Also anyone could say so and so was a hype job. Also Cotto had trouble with Torres and he won. Hatton had trouble with Collazo and won. I could easily say that Cotto is overrated because he had problems with Torres. I mean Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu and beat good people. Whther you refuse to believe it or not he wasn't a hype job. He lost to the best pound for pound fighter in the world.

**** I could say Mosley was a hypejob because he lost all his big fights except De La Hoya, who was "another hype job for beating an old JJC and an old Hector Camacho", and "so what if he beat Vargas. Vargas was ruined by DLH and Trinidad." See it's really easy to discredit a fighter.

Battering Judah was good, but he wasn't supposed to KO Hatton. He was supposed to box circles around him and UD him was the general conception. Insted he fought Hatton's fight and then ended up knocking him out. He showed a lot more diversity in skill and overcame that roughness Hatton brought and finished it.

Yes, beating Mosley looks better then Oscar, but I felt it was more "impressive" for Floyd because he beat him more soundly then Cotto beat Mosley. Likewise, it did a lot more for Cotto from a boxing fan's perspecitive because it proved his worthyness. I think Cotto deserves a shot at Mayweather and should fight him. Before the Mosley fight I'd say no, but Mosley sealed the deal. Though if he doesn't I won't say he's ducking Cotto either.

For a good portiant of the fight, Mayweather didn't get past Oscar's defense, Cotto didn't have that problem with Mosley. Plus Oscar manhandled Floyd around the ring wich didn't look that impressive for Floyd either.

Thats why I tip my hat to Cotto for that one. How Cotto looked against Mosley was amazing, the flush power shots to the face and body. Meanwhile, Mayweather landed a few good straight rights and that was it. I mean remember, Mosley and Cotto was great and action packed, Oscar vs Mayweather was considered boring and disapointing by the masses (although I did enjoy it).

I tip my hat to Cotto for that one..

You could say Cotto is over-rated if he won a controversal decision over the likes of the people that hurt him, then went on to get KOed. But that didnt happen, Cotto got up to destory every time. Hatton got what alot of people thought was a gift in the Collazo fight, got stung late, and eventually got KOed against Mayweather.

lol I dont see how you guys keep reaching like this when the contrast of difference between the the two couldnt be more apparent.

For the Mayweather fight, I think Hatton was a hype job. His whole movement coming into that fight was hype, theres nothing you can say to make me think otherwise. I don't care if he was undefeated, or that he beat Kostya, I wasn't impressed then, I saw him get stung and out boxed by Collazo, and I knew there was a high chance that Mayweather was going to KO Hatton late. It was actually fairly easy for me to determine this.

I said it once and I'll say it again, it should have been ATLEAST Margarito in there on Dec. 8th, not Ricky. But thats Floyd. It's actually kind of appauling to see the world jump on Hatton like that, I mean he's good, but was never as good as they made it seem. I mean look where blowin smoke up his ass has gotten him, he got knocked into a ring post, you guys built him up so high, and he came down real hard, when he shouldn't have been in there to begin with. I'm not tryin to talk **** about Hatton, I'm just sayin..Should have been Margarito (ATLEAST) in the ring with Floyd on Dec.8th. Should have been a fighter that can go 12 without getting so tired that he can just be check hooked into a ring post, land on his ass and look like he just wants to take a nap because he can't manage his own stamina for 12 rounds.


See, I think Cotto beat Mosley more convincingly then Floyd beat Oscar. To me, its just THAT obvious that Cotto was more impressive. But hey, we can disagree lol.

Anyone who thought Mayweather couldn't or wasn't capable of KOing Hatton were the same people that were blowing smoke up Hattons ass. I'm not going to dive into my theory on that, but I thought it was funny and yet strange that everyone "mysteriously" forgot about what happen in the Collazo fight. Hatton got tired, he got tagged, he looked he wanted to take a nap. The evidence was right there, but people ignored that and decided to praise and gas Hatton lol...I got my theory on why the world did that, but It will only cause problems if I discuss it.