Question.....Who hits harder, Bruno, Ruddock. or Wladimir??????

[BKM-]

You see, Yaman, they're shifty because you can't pin them down as having bias toward specific fighters. Their bias is MUCH more general than that: They're biased toward today's fighters in general. Their dislike of older fighters is palpable as well (see them_apples). Dispute their claims and they turn around and accuse YOU of bias. Witness the comments that I hate all modern fighters. I suppose that being a fan of Hopkins, Jones, Lewis, Mosely, Calzage, De La Hoya, Castillo, and Tszyu is showing my "hatred" of modern fighters. Unless, of course, by there definition modern starts with the Klitschkos. Like you I answered every claim this joker made and he simply ignored my answers because he didn't like them. Who's the poor debater here? I know of no rules of debate where people like him are allowed to cherry pick what he has to respond to. If you're dodging the counter-arguments you're LOSING. Then again, after all, it's all Southpaw's opinions isn't it? Well, opinions are like toilet paper: You can wipe your ass with most people's. At this point Southpaw must be pretty brown don't you think?

Poet

Indeed, you're right about them being biased about fighters in general. Perhaps these guys lack so much knowledge on the sport they just judge everything as a fanboy(One that has only watched Boxing for a year or 1-3). There's so much hypocricy, hate, bias etc in their arguments it becomes virtually impossible to have a sane discussion with these clowns. It's best to put them on ignore, they might even be trolls too. This kid southpaw in particular is a desperate case. You know he actually told me has knowledge worth of 25 years? LOL. You don't even want to know about some of the other stuff he said, but perhaps you'll have a good laugh so i'll leave it at that.

[StarshipTrooper]

Indeed, you're right about them being biased about fighters in general. Perhaps these guys lack so much knowledge on the sport they just judge everything as a fanboy(One that has only watched Boxing for a year or 1-3). There's so much hypocricy, hate, bias etc in their arguments it becomes virtually impossible to have a sane discussion with these clowns. It's best to put them on ignore, they might even be trolls too. This kid southpaw in particular is a desperate case. You know he actually told me has knowledge worth of 25 years? LOL. You don't even want to know about some of the other stuff he said, but perhaps you'll have a good laugh so i'll leave it at that.

Oh I've heard quite a bit of his speel from my encounter with him (that was on his "Klitschko would cream a prime Foreman" thread). Somehow I seriously doubt this dude is 25 or older. More like 18 to 20 would be accurate. In anycase not even I came out of the womb watching the fights so I think his "25 years of boxing knowledge" can be safely put down as yet another Southpaw inaccuracy. His biggest problem is that I seriously doubt he's even WATCHED fighters form more than 10 years ago. Considering the cornacopia of fight film available in the Video Trading Block forum that makes such a state no more than a case of willfull ignornance or inexcusable laziness.

Poet

[slicksouthpaw16]

Indeed, you're right about them being biased about fighters in general. Perhaps these guys lack so much knowledge on the sport they just judge everything as a fanboy(One that has only watched Boxing for a year or 1-3). There's so much hypocricy, hate, bias etc in their arguments it becomes virtually impossible to have a sane discussion with these clowns. It's best to put them on ignore, they might even be trolls too. This kid southpaw in particular is a desperate case. You know he actually told me has knowledge worth of 25 years? LOL. You don't even want to know about some of the other stuff he said, but perhaps you'll have a good laugh so i'll leave it at that.

Oh I've heard quite a bit of his speel from my encounter with him (that was on his "Klitschko would cream a prime Foreman" thread). Somehow I seriously doubt this dude is 25 or older. More like 18 to 20 would be accurate. In anycase not even I came out of the womb watching the fights so I think his "25 years of boxing knowledge" can be safely put down as yet another Southpaw inaccuracy. His biggest problem is that I seriously doubt he's even WATCHED fighters form more than 10 years ago. Considering the cornacopia of fight film available in the Video Trading Block forum that makes such a state no more than a case of willfull ignornance or inexcusable laziness.

Poet

I have watched more fights and knows alot more about boxing than the both of you, although i really think that this is the same person talking to themselves. The Poet version is biased and not open to todays fighters at all. The Yaman version is a Tyson junkie and thinks hes the greatest fighter of all time, its simply laughable. I dont even waste my time on posters like you. I am really considering not ever responding to you again.

[BKM-]

Oh I've heard quite a bit of his speel from my encounter with him (that was on his "Klitschko would cream a prime Foreman" thread). Somehow I seriously doubt this dude is 25 or older. More like 18 to 20 would be accurate. In anycase not even I came out of the womb watching the fights so I think his "25 years of boxing knowledge" can be safely put down as yet another Southpaw inaccuracy. His biggest problem is that I seriously doubt he's even WATCHED fighters form more than 10 years ago. Considering the cornacopia of fight film available in the Video Trading Block forum that makes such a state no more than a case of willfull ignornance or inexcusable laziness.

Poet

Right, and as you were saying before, when these clowns are being put in their place they'll try to switch their argument and call YOU biased, a fanboy etc. And when he is put in his place and exposed yet again he'll become even more desperate

I have watched more fights and knows alot more about boxing than the both of you, although i really think that this is the same person talking to themselves. The Poet version is biased and not open to todays fighters at all. The Yaman version is a Tyson junkie and thinks hes the greatest fighter of all time, its simply laughable. I dont even waste my time on posters like you. I am really considering not ever responding to you again.

and he'll call YOU a troll, threathen to put YOU on ignore lol. I'll tell you what, southpaw should be someone's parrot, because the kid repeats anything he picks up from my posts.

And slicksouthpaw, you can do whatever the hell you want in this situation. I don't care. But you won't get away with your same old bull**** as well as trying to put dirt on my name behind my back. Nothing slips by for me.

[duffgun]

I agree, Marciano would get ate up by the likes of Wladimir, Peter, and Vitali. Rocky was a small heavyweight to begin with so matching well against a 6'6 recking ball is something that i dont see happening.


I wouldn't call it garbage. care to name the top 20 heavyweights that would dominate today?

Although I agree that wlad would have a good chance against marciano due to his height and reach, Sam Peter would not beat marciano.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Although I agree that wlad would have a good chance against marciano due to his height and reach, Sam Peter would not beat marciano.

Marciano was a great champion but he was lucky to come around when the division was weak and filled with blown up light heavyweights and good fighters that were past thier prime. Peter would overwelme the smaller and slower marciano with his power and size. Marciano only weighed about 190 to 200 at his best and when two trucks colide, the bigger truck always win unless the smaller trucks knows how to box and move.lol Had he stayed a little while longer, he would have been beaten badly by Ali and stopped on cuts, or he would have been beaten and possibly stopped by Liston.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Right, and as you were saying before, when these clowns are being put in their place they'll try to switch their argument and call YOU biased, a fanboy etc. And when he is put in his place and exposed yet again he'll become even more desperate



and he'll call YOU a troll, threathen to put YOU on ignore lol. I'll tell you what, southpaw should be someone's parrot, because the kid repeats anything he picks up from my posts.

And slicksouthpaw, you can do whatever the hell you want in this situation. I don't care. But you won't get away with your same old bull**** as well as trying to put dirt on my name behind my back. Nothing slips by for me.

And you claim to be an adult? man seriously, grow up. Its really not that serious. Im half your age and alot more mature than you are. Also, why would i take anything from your posts when its all BS? Thats actually just laughable. I might welcome you to my ignore list but i shouldn't even waste that much time on you. With the time that i waste trading insults with your no knowledge having self, i could be dicussing the upcoming fights with knowledgeable boxing fans who actually knows how to dicuss boxing without giving childish insults and acting like a child. Its laughable the way you act like this because i expose you in every debate we ever had, just get over it.

[StarshipTrooper]

I have watched more fights and knows alot more about boxing than the both of you, although i really think that this is the same person talking to themselves. The Poet version is biased and not open to todays fighters at all. The Yaman version is a Tyson junkie and thinks hes the greatest fighter of all time, its simply laughable. I dont even waste my time on posters like you. I am really considering not ever responding to you again.

Watched more fights? The dude seriously needs to go look at my posted collection in Video Trading Black LOL! Notice, Yaman, how he dodged my refutation and made the same discredited claim that I don't like today's fighters. I think that narrows things down a bit more: By "today's fighters" he really means the Klitschko's and no others. Is there a better example of a closet nuthugger than Southpaw? Yaman an I the same person? LOL! While we have a mutual respect for one another we dissagree on certain things: I'm not a Tyson fan and he is. The difference? I don't demean him and call him ****** for being a Tyson fan and he doesn't me for not being one. Who's the mature ones here? The truth is Southpaw we're laughing at you now because the contortions you go through in every post is truly hysterical.

Poet

[MickyHatton]

If we are talking about single punch power than in my opinion it has to be Bruno.

The guy didn't have the technique of some or speed of others but he had thunderous power, he would almost drive his opponents into the canvas.

Wlad and Ruddock are obviously huge hitters but I look at Bruno and put him beside Foreman and Shavers for raw power.

[Celtic_Warrior]

Bruno then Ruddock then Wlad.