Question.....Who hits harder, Bruno, Ruddock. or Wladimir??????

[slicksouthpaw16]

I totally agree. But if Morrison hadn't tried to KO Michael Bent in the 1st round (leaving himself wide open) he would have eventually outclassed and KO'd him. Morrison was looking past Bendt to bigger fights ahead and got careless. That's why you can't just look at results and draw conclusions about things like punching power. My original point was that Klitschko is a completely superior offensive fighter, but Ruddock had more raw punching power. I could be wrong, but there is no real proof that I am or not.

I see what you are saying now

[BKM-]

Ok but who asked you to come in my thread? If you dont like what i say, why reply? Do not take it out on me because i own you every time we have debate.

In all fairness, you never like anything I say and reply to me as well. And when have you ever "owned" me? You still think you win debates when you reply every time and write as much as you can?

[beez721]

Yeah but I thought this was just about pure power and Bruno had that more than almost any other heavyweight. If he had Wladimir's or Ruddock's punching technique he would literally kill guys in the ring. Foreman and Shavers too. Even with the wild swings they were able to be world class so what do I know.

All were able to punch with technique too but didn't really care to.

I can't say any of those three is the most powerful for sure but Bruno to me seems like it with his KO % and the way his knockouts look. He also KO'd some good opposition and had very long arms so he had plenty of leverage.

Bruno didn't hit nearly as often with those big rights as Ruddock and Wladimir though.

well,,power is related to the amount of leverage you get in your shots. the more leverage the more power. if your talking pure strength,,,bruno may have been the strongest. like I said,,,it is all debatable. maybe bruno did have the more pure power. I guess only common opponents would be able to answer that one for sure

[slicksouthpaw16]

In all fairness, you never like anything I say and reply to me as well. And when have you ever "owned" me? You still think you win debates when you reply every time and write as much as you can?

I never have a problem with what you say.You always get mad because i have an opinion and i dont get that, i think its out of frustration to be honest. I didn't say that Wlad hits harder than Foreman either, i said that he is in Foremans league when it come to acurate power punching and you can make a case that he hits at least as hard, thats what i said. Also, i have been owning you for the past few debates. The first time i owned you was back in the Tyson/Ibeabuchi thread.

[beez721]

I wasn't speaking of his posts here, but you might see what i'm talking about when he has the courage to admit he thinks Wlad may have had more power than George Foreman.

And me biased? What, is it a trend to call anyone with a Tyson avatar biased? Tell me where i'm biased please. It seems like that fits you more because you overestimate Wladimir quite often(Even here: I believe you said Wlad has more power and a better chin than these guys as well?)

I didnt say you were biased. I suggested it,, considering Ive never seen anything outrageous coming from the above mentioned poster. wlad owns is another story. as far as me being biased goes,,,I dont overestimate wladimr,,,,nor do I underestimate him,,I simply tell it as it is and the majority of sensible posters on here seem to agree with me and respect my opinions. as far as chins go,,I said the 3 were pretty equal imo. they were all vulnerable to punchers

[TheGreatA]

Just posting some vid's.


George Foreman KO's


Ali vs Shavers round 2


Shavers ends Ellis


Shavers ends Norton

[Jim Jeffries]

Bruno then Ruddock then Wlad they also both have a better chin.

Bruno has a better chin than Wlad? I think that's arguable, Frank was knocked out by James Smith and stopped by Tim Witherspoon, though his 2 stoppages by Tyson and one by Lennox were forgivable.

[BKM-]

I never have a problem with what you say.You always get mad because i have an opinion and i dont get that, i think its out of frustration to be honest. I didn't say that Wlad hits harder than Foreman either, i said that he is in Foremans league when it come to acurate power punching and you can make a case that he hits at least as hard, thats what i said. Also, i have been owning you for the past few debates. The first time i owned you was back in the Tyson/Ibeabuchi thread.

No, you would never get me mad son. Seems like you do, when you 'go out of character' with things like owned smileys and TRY to get ME mad.
If you want to keep saying nonsence like "Haha I have PWNED you so bad!!" why not tell the truth? Truth is, I have answered everything you ever asked me or debated with me, and I was the one getting compliments in those threads(Other knowledgable posters like Sweet Pete and Poet agree with me about your redicilous posts). You are always on the defensive while I prove you wrong and counter your redicilous arguments with real boxing knowledge. I have also exposed your contradicting arguments again and again while you have nothing on ME. Like I said, you seem to be under the impression that continueing to post in a lost argument makes you "own" someone? If not, elaborate how you "owned" me son.

And thanks for confirming my earlier comments about you.

[TheGreatA]

Bonecrusher Smith and Witherspoon both punched hard like hell. Bruno's chin wasn't the problem, his stamina and his attitude were. Kind of like Wlad's problems really. They aren't used to taking punches, not that their lights go out every single time they get hit.

Bruno could take punishment but he would just stay still and get hit because he didn't have the stamina and the survival skills to recover.

[-CANE-]

Bruno has a better chin than Wlad? I think that's arguable, Frank was knocked out by James Smith and stopped by Tim Witherspoon, though his 2 stoppages by Tyson and one by Lennox were forgivable.

No debate needed go and watch the Bruno and Wlad losses again then tell me I'm wrong. Wlad has been dropped numerous times and Bruno only once when he was completely exhausted against Bonecrusher. Bruno's problem was never his chin it was his training methods and he never had the stamina to last which is when he got caught and tagged. How many punches did Smith,Witherspoon,Tyson twice and Lewis unload on Bruno when trapped against the ropes but he takes them all still standing on his feet. If Wlad had taken them shots off Tyson and Lewis he would be flat on his back and you could count to 100 and he still wouldn't get back up.