Harold Lederman is a good ****in judge!

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  • Hitman932
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    #1

    Harold Lederman is a good ****in judge!

    its been awhile now since i disagreed more than a point or two with any one of his scorecards.

    like his voice or not, harold has been keepin it real
  • Fox McCloud
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    #2
    Harold is... atrocious at judging.

    Tell me round 2 of Calzaghe-Kessler is accurate.

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    • QuCongee
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      #3
      He's better than people give him credit for. I think he scored Cotto-Mosley correctly.

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        #4
        Originally posted by QuCongee
        He's better than people give him credit for. I think he scored Cotto-Mosley correctly.
        To be honest... I think it is hard to be a bad judge in boxing. How many people can have a credible argument that you scored a close round wrong? Not many, because the round was close. All you have to do is get the landslide rounds correct.

        Harold struggles to do so a lot.

        Round 1 of Mayweather-Hatton
        Round 2 of Calzaghe-Kessler
        Round 1 of Hopkins-Trinidad
        Round 1 of Mayweather-Chavez

        4 DOMINANT rounds that Lederman scored the wrong way.

        I haven't seen that many fights in my lifetime, and he has blown 4 of the easiest rounds to score. That is a travesty.

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        • QuCongee
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          #5
          Originally posted by DWiens421
          To be honest... I think it is hard to be a bad judge in boxing. How many people can have a credible argument that you scored a close round wrong? Not many, because the round was close. All you have to do is get the landslide rounds correct.

          Harold struggles to do so a lot.

          Round 1 of Mayweather-Hatton
          Round 2 of Calzaghe-Kessler
          Round 1 of Hopkins-Trinidad
          Round 1 of Mayweather-Chavez

          4 DOMINANT rounds that Lederman scored the wrong way.

          I haven't seen that many fights in my lifetime, and he has blown 4 of the easiest rounds to score. That is a travesty.
          Hey I'm not saying he's the best judge in the world but look at some of the scores these other maniacs (like the official judges) come up with. In Cotto-Mosley, 2 out of 3 judges gave Cotto the 9th round and 1 actually have Cotto the 10th! HOLY ****.

          I'll take ledderman over many official judges any time.

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          • Fox McCloud
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            #6
            Originally posted by QuCongee
            Hey I'm not saying he's the best judge in the world but look at some of the scores these other maniacs (like the official judges) come up with. In Cotto-Mosley, 2 out of 3 judges gave Cotto the 9th round and 1 actually have Cotto the 10th! HOLY ****.

            I'll take ledderman over many official judges any time.
            I'll take Lederman over Tony Paolillo, and that's about it.

            He scored in both Forrest-Quartey and Casamayor-Santa Cruz.

            Pretty much every other judge gets the nod over Harold, even Glen Hamada.

            And before you praise Harold Lederman, he was one of the ******s who scored Michael Nunn-John Scully. I don't remember which judge he was, but the three official scorecards were as follows:

            120-108
            119-109
            118-110

            All for Michael Nunn.

            ESPN reported that John Scully landed more shots over the course of the fight. If that isn't absurd, then I don't know what is.

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            • sterling
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              #7
              lederman has had alot of expierance in judgin over 100+ fights and alot of title fights so you cant discredit him enless ur a actual judge urself.

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                #8
                Originally posted by sterling
                lederman has had alot of expierance in judgin over 100+ fights and alot of title fights so you cant discredit him enless ur a actual judge urself.
                So...

                Round 1 of Mayweather-Chavez.

                Punchstats:
                Mayweather - 23 out of 56
                Chavez 6 out of 92

                Harold gives it to... JESUS CHAVEZ!

                What a ****ing travesty. Especially because Chavez is a ****ing featherfist. You can't even make the argument that those 6 punches were devastating, because they weren't. They were taps from a featherfist.

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                • C.Y.
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                  #9
                  honestly i am not trying to hate on harold but he is a terrible judge probably one of the worst of all time.. sometimes i am actually perplexed by his scores for the majority of the fights he judges.. and when he is giving his explanations as to why he is scoring the way he is he doesnt make sense most of the time

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                  • Tuggers1986
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hitman932
                    its been awhile now since i disagreed more than a point or two with any one of his scorecards.

                    like his voice or not, harold has been keepin it real
                    You must be either drunk or high!

                    I disagree with Ledermans cards about 75% of the time. He is a terrible judge.
                    Last edited by Tuggers1986; 01-08-2008, 07:52 AM.

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