Are some races naturally better boxers?

[Benny Leonard]

Thank you, Jimmy the Greek.

Hahaha, yes...but was he lying?

He got into trouble because it stirred emotions...it brought up "why?" would they {the "African-American} have an advantage, if they did at all.

It's a bad thing to bring up. One side doesn't want to know that it was possible that they were bred like animals to make superior workers, being born not from "love" but from force and need. The other side doesn't want to feel inferior or worse, feel the guilt of the past.

[Thread Stealer]

Hahaha, yes...but was he lying?

He got into trouble because it stirred emotions...it brought up "why?" would they {the "African-American} have an advantage.

It's a bad thing to bring up. One side doesn't want to know that it was possible that they were bred like animals to make superior workers, being born not from "love" but from force and need. The other side doesn't want to feel inferior or worse, feel the guilt of the past.

IMO, Jimmy the Greek caught too much flack for stating something that's been said in history books.

[sonofisis]

One side doesn't want to know that it was possible that they were bred like animals to make superior workers, being born not from "love" but from force and need.

Well, I'd have to say that people who DON'T believe such are at least slightly familiar with human biology and why such a proposition is completely absurd in the context of physical anthropology. In other words, pseudo-scientific babble..

[SkillspayBills]

It isn't in race it's in ability. Every race has the ability to succeed so it's more in the person than the race. I seriously hope this thread hasn't turned into a flame war.

[j]

tunney5 - your phys ed instructer must've been one dumb mother.....


to be great, in any art, you have to practice. and you have to know how to practice.

having met a very wide variety of people in many different upbringings and situations, it seems that no one race has a particular advantage. how your raised, your training, your outlook, etc.....have far more of an impact than anything.

kenyans are known for long distance running, but i'll take a well conditioned mexican athlete to beat a poor conditioned kenyan any day of the week.

[kayjay]

Well, I'd have to say that people who DON'T believe such are at least slightly familiar with human biology and why such a proposition is completely absurd in the context of physical anthropology. In other words, pseudo-scientific babble..

You've illicitly converted when can plausibly be said here

[sonofisis]

You've illicitly converted when can plausibly be said here

This is a bit incoherent.. I don't understand what you're trying to say.

[Benny Leonard]

tunney5 - your phys ed instructer must've been one dumb mother.....


to be great, in any art, you have to practice. and you have to know how to practice.

having met a very wide variety of people in many different upbringings and situations, it seems that no one race has a particular advantage. how your raised, your training, your outlook, etc.....have far more of an impact than anything.

kenyans are known for long distance running, but i'll take a well conditioned mexican athlete to beat a poor conditioned kenyan any day of the week.

Yes, of course you have to practice and practice correctly, with many other factors that follow.

For "Kenyans": would a well-conditioned "Kenyan" be favored over other "well-conditioned" athletes of "lighter" skin?

I'm not sure so I'll leave it up to you. I haven't checked the numbers. I'm not even sure if they have built up their genetics a bit from generations of doing intense long distance training, which could be possible.

I would assume at least you would need a light bone structure to do well in that kind of long distance in the "time" they put up.


Moroccan athlete, Hicham El Guerrouj was a great middle-distance runner. Of

[kayjay]

This is a bit incoherent.. I don't understand what you're trying to say.

"Illicit conversion" is the name for the fallacy of substituting a general statement for its converse. ('All A are B' for 'All B are A')

What can plausibly be said in this case:

People at least slightly familiar with human biology (are people who) don't believe such

You said:

People who don't believe such are at least slightly familiar with human biology


The statements are not equivalent. Surely some people neither are familiar with human biology nor believe such.


Edit: this is not necessarily relevant to the discussion, just giving you a hard time Brother Isis

[BrooklynBomber]

"Illicit conversion" is the name for the fallacy of substituting a general statement for its converse. ('All A are B' for 'All B are A')

What can plausibly be said in this case:

People at least slightly familiar with human biology (are people who) don't believe such

You said:

People who don't believe such are at least slightly familiar with human biology


The statements are not equivalent. Surely some people neither are familiar with human biology nor believe such.


Edit: this is not necessarily relevant to the discussion, just giving you a hard time Brother Isis

Well, **** me, if it's not an english degree at work.

For all my ability I would not be able to notice that.