Why did Roy never fight someone who could test his glass jaw?

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    #161
    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
    1)Yes i also think Benn won the second fight against eubank, that doesn't ever equal a win against roy jones though

    2)Please dont ever mention Steve collins in the same breath as roy jones

    3) Give jones credit, he beat hopkins and a prime toney, id have to pick him over michael Nunn for style reasons, but im no expert on nunn.

    4)Has it ever entered peoples minds that some fighters didnt actually wanna fight roy jones? toney till this day has no problems with the loss and hopkins has been ducking a jones rematch under the guise of a 60/40 split for years, when jones said he'd fight hopkins again, hopkins didnt wanna know. Jones's resume isnt spectacular, but he has some nice names on his record.

    5)Montel griffin couldnt go 2 rounds or summin on the rematch with Jones.

    6) Jones didnt just beat the majority of his opponents, He dominated them, Benn wanted nothing to do with toney, RJJ handled him in his prime (weight loss or not) Even in the Mc clenann fight Benn was in serious trouble, Watson stopped him, Collins ended his carrer, did anyone of those boxers have Roy Jones's talent?

    7) You gotta look at strengths and weaknesses, name me one Strength Benn eubank, Collins and Hopkins had over Jones:

    speed? Never,
    Power, No,
    Skills? No,
    Defense, No

    Therefore why would they have anything more than a punchers chance against him? no one knows for sure, and styles make fights, but in reality they didnt have the style for Jones imo
    IF anybody had the style to trouble Jones JR it was Nunn he was tall had fast hands & he was a Southpaw

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      #162
      Technicall skill its because of dumbass fans like u that Roy got away with claiming to be the best but decided not to fight anyone post Toney

      and why we will never see the best of PBF who chooses to fight the like of a shot Judah an ordinary Baldomir & a shot Gatti & wants fight a light welter weight & refuses to fight a guy who he should be fighting as his next oponent
      in Cotto

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        #163
        Originally posted by divad
        Technicall skill its because of dumbass fans like u that Roy got away with claiming to be the best but decided not to fight anyone post Toney

        and why we will never see the best of PBF who chooses to fight the like of a shot Judah an ordinary Baldomir & a shot Gatti & wants fight a light welter weight & refuses to fight a guy who he should be fighting as his next oponent
        in Cotto
        didnt cotto JUST fight your so called shot judah? and a past prime mosley, which he barely beat? pbf doesnt need cotto... cotto needs pbf

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        • Technical_Skill
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          #164
          Originally posted by divad
          Jones JR Had all the pysical advantages but that does'nt always win fights as the old saying goes styles make fights

          regardless how strongly u believe Roy would have beaten these fighters it dont make it so that he would have u just cause u say so ,i dont know about u but i would rather have seen Roy demonstrate his superiority by beating them rather than fighing bums like Kelly,Lucas,Hall , & just claim that he would have done regardless

          if u think RJJ resume is short on Top quality fighters post Toney & Hopkins because they were all ducking him or they were asking for to much money then u are deluded or very naive or both

          wakey wakey son


          Nunn was apparently shot then why did Roy not fight him he found the time to beat ,Hall ,Lucas,Kelly,Frazier ,etc yet claimed why would he fight someone like Nunn Who had so many losses on his record LOL
          Hold on a min, just because one fighter doesnt fight another, that doesnt mean he would lose the fight.

          Name me one of those fighter you mentioned that would have honestly beaten jones, Seriously, and dont mention Steve collins either cos he had more chance of catching a cold then he did catching roy jones.



          I never once said EVERY fighter ducked jones, but come on man, ****ing hopkins clearly didnt want none, he knew the score, toney took the jones defeat like a man, Jones was probably cautious in defending his unbeaten record and his position a draw in boxing, but you cant seriously tell me the guys you listed would have a legitmate shot at prime roy jones. He has some good names on his record, not all great names, but some good names.

          And to answer the question Toney had ****ing serious power at 160-168, its not jones's fault he couldnt make weight, toney was the man, jones moved up a weight to fight the man, give him credit. Tarver had Power at 175 fact, Glen Johnson had decent power at 175, so jones did fight some decent guys.
          Last edited by Technical_Skill; 01-07-2008, 04:17 PM.

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            #165
            Divad one of these days you gonna learn to have a proper discussion without calling people gay names like 'dumbass'.

            If you wanna have a proper discussion im here.

            If you need to go to the Toliet and insert that Tampon, go do it, and let me know when you ready for some real talk.

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              #166
              Originally posted by Technical_Skill
              Divad one of these days you gonna learn to have a proper discussion without calling people gay names like 'dumbass'.

              If you wanna have a proper discussion im here.

              If you need to go to the Toliet and insert that Tampon, go do it, and let me know when you ready for some real talk.

              Technical_Skill i insult u cause u are Fool who dont know anything about Boxing but pretend u do & i dont like u cause when people have disagreed with u in the past u are the one who throws insults around

              needless to say i aint gonna show a prick like u the common courtesy i do the other posters
              Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 01-07-2008, 06:57 PM.

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                #167
                Originally posted by JoeCalzaghe
                Montel Griffith would of got back up and KOed Roy if Roy didn't hit him when he was down.
                your a dumb ass watch the fight again. griffith was getting clobbered!!!!! If he would got up he would got ktfo! he was done go watch the fight again before you say ****** ****.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by rogelio1289
                  your a dumb ass watch the fight again. griffith was getting clobbered!!!!! If he would got up he would got ktfo! he was done go watch the fight again before you say ****** ****.
                  to be fair Griffin was done he was hurt & Griffin did show decent reecouprative powers in his fights with Toney although Roy hit a lot harder than Toney & when he got u hurt he he didnt let u off the hook very often

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by divad
                    to be fair Griffin was done he was hurt & Griffin did show decent reecouprative powers in his fights with Toney although Roy hit a lot harder than Toney & when he got u hurt he he didnt let u off the hook very often
                    yeah if montel would have got up in the first fight he would of ktfo of jones. Just like he got up in the second fight and ktfo jones right?????

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                    • Technical_Skill
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by divad
                      needless to say i aint gonna show a prick like u the common courtesy i do the other posters
                      So your not gonna drop on your knees and suck my **** like you do to the other posters?

                      Thats a shame, apparently you make alot more sense when you got a penis in your mouth.

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