Pavlik-Taylor I three months later

[kayjay]

I think people underestimate Pavlik's boxing. It seems as some people on here think of him as a white Geaorge Foreman. He's very technically sound. He knows how to pick off punches, although he's not great at it. Like KayJay said, he still keeps his technique.

His lack of athletic fluidity is even a help here; he needs to stay technical. He's a taught fighter.

And most of all the guy knows how to punch. He knows how to pull punches to set other punches up. Something a lot of guys on here overlook. He mixes up punches at different angles as well, that's why once Taylor got rocked by that right hand he was done for.

That's what I meant when I referred to his finishing. He threw his 1-2 to split the guard for the left uppercut, then the next combination ended with a left that split the guard for a right uppercut. Speed and athleticism can be overcome when you break someone down technically like that.

[kayjay]

I predict that Pavlik will be the even more confident fighter next time and will actually have an easier fight because of this, now what remains to be seen as to just how honest the judging will be that's what I'm worried about. How anyone could have had Taylor leading on the score cards at the end of the first fight is not short of an outrage!!

I agree he will be confident, but if Taylor gets back to the basics he has a chance. If Taylor fights with his left high he'll make Pavlik work for it, even though he (Taylor) won't land as many left hooks downstairs

[K-Nan]

You guys forgetting Taylor isn't with Steward no more? Whether that's a good thing or not, it probably can't be when he's going into a rematch. Steward could have been great at analyzing what went wrong in the first fight and to build a new gameplan. Now with a new guy, things might not go so well. I dunno, I think Pavlik has too much momentum at this point to lose or let Taylor beat him in any way possible.

I think the swicth away from Manny will alow Jermain to think less- which he needs. His stint with Manny showed nothing but the fact that he can't adapt. With Ozell Nelson, he can just do what he did best- go off instincts and athleticism and hope that works. He has a chance, but I'm not betting on it.

And Kayjay- I think you're downplaying the 2nd round knockdown. He was definitely wobbled by it.

[SkillspayBills]

Go to Dailymotion it is on there.

[NeXt In Line]

People continuously say Pavlik will be stronger at 166, but what most tend to forget is...so will Jermain. I think Taylor will be much more weary of getting hit with Kelly's right hand this time around, cause after that whooping in the 7th he knows that either he needs to stay outside, or keep his goddamn left hand up.

I think Jermain takes a pretty clear decision.

[Smokin__]

yeah Pavlik's a monster.

Steward actually made Jermain better.

For some reason the lads here are blinded by Jermain's use of the jab early in his career. He was fighting washed up guys and smaller fighters which was why his jab was used in high amounts.

But as soon as he fought the top guys they figured him out and ruined his confidence. He's a natural ****er with good athleticism but he's not a technical fighter by any means. Pavlik is a taught fighter who does alot of things right. He just doesn't look flashy doing it because he is a little awkward.

[nmuburner22]

Pavlik is vastly overrated.

[Kball15]

I was shocked at Both fighters lack of body punching, especially considering that when they DID throw to the body, it was effective, AND considering they have both been effective to the body in previous fights.

And Pavlik showed he has an incredible chin, it took nearly a dozen of Taylors hardest shots to land FLUSH in order for pavlik to go down.

AND, Pavlik showed great finishing ability, and a very good defense. Taylor did not hit Pavlik flush ONCE after the 2nd round. A couple big shots off the top of Pavliks head and one big partially blocked body shot, and nothing clean after that.

[Kball15]

oh, and the fight was better in person

[Kball15]

yeah Pavlik's a monster.

Steward actually made Jermain better.

For some reason the lads here are blinded by Jermain's use of the jab early in his career. He was fighting washed up guys and smaller fighters which was why his jab was used in high amounts.

But as soon as he fought the top guys they figured him out and ruined his confidence. He's a natural ****er with good athleticism but he's not a technical fighter by any means. Pavlik is a taught fighter who does alot of things right. He just doesn't look flashy doing it because he is a little awkward.

I agree, but Taylor does still have an excellent jab. And it could same him in the rematch if he ever gets buzzed by a shot.

Instead of retreating to the ropes, he has to double and triple jab to keep Pavlik has off balance.

My biggest knock on Pavlik is he is careless with his balance a lot. even in his biggest fight against Taylor, the jab sent up off balance a lot.