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  • Seriously, this is a terrible thread.

    I would happily entertain the argument that Joe Calzaghe resume could have been better, that is a fact, but to say he is either overrated or not one of the ten best fighters on this planet is either ignorant, arrogant or naive.

    Any fighter who remains unbeaten and defends his title over 20 times is far from slightly above average.

    Any fighter who beats a number of current or former world champions in Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Veit, Mitchell and Brewer then takes on the supposed true undefeated Super Middleweight Champion in Jeff Lacy and completely outclasses him and then takes on the other undefeated long time champion in his weight class in Kessler and comfortably beats him to finally call the division his own is not only a top ten fighter but easily a top 5 fighter.

    The guy has been a world champion for over ten years and a pro for 15 years and no one has been able to beat him, is that a slightly above average fighter?

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    • Originally posted by robjr View Post
      Calzaghe then gets up and stops Mitchell less than a minute later.

      I can't take a guy seriously who thinks Felix Sturm and Paul Malignaggi are elite fighters, yet disrespects Joe Calzaghe.

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      • Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
        let me name the fighters that he beat that are better than calzaghe's best oponent(kessler) thus far:

        Winky Wright
        Tarver
        Jermaine Taylor(IMO)
        William Joppy
        Felix Trinidad
        Oscar De La Hoya
        Glen Johnson
        Keith Holmes
        If you seriously believe ANY of those fighters in that list would beat Calzaghe then you are seriously deluded.
        Well we already figured that out.
        Perhaps you should go back to watching the Sport of the man in your avatar.
        The most ridiculous of your list has to be Oscar De La Hoya.
        How on earth you think a guy who at most can fight as a light middleweight would stand a chance at Super-middleweight is beyond belief.
        Oscar couldn't beat Felix Sturm even though it was blatantly obvious he got a gift decision.
        You , RobJr and MMUburner are the most deluded posters of the moment.

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        • Originally posted by TheManchine View Post

          Mister Untouchable, and still am


          Mister Unbeatable, and still am


          Mister Unknockoutable, and still am


          I'm Roy the best pound for pound fighter in the world, whoever don't agree? I guess yall musta forgot

          Yall musta forgot...

          Best post of the thread. Topic closed.

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          • Originally posted by MickyHatton View Post
            Seriously, this is a terrible thread.

            I would happily entertain the argument that Joe Calzaghe resume could have been better, that is a fact, but to say he is either overrated or not one of the ten best fighters on this planet is either ignorant, arrogant or naive.

            Any fighter who remains unbeaten and defends his title over 20 times is far from slightly above average.

            Any fighter who beats a number of current or former world champions in Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Veit, Mitchell and Brewer then takes on the supposed true undefeated Super Middleweight Champion in Jeff Lacy and completely outclasses him and then takes on the other undefeated long time champion in his weight class in Kessler and comfortably beats him to finally call the division his own is not only a top ten fighter but easily a top 5 fighter.

            The guy has been a world champion for over ten years and a pro for 15 years and no one has been able to beat him, is that a slightly above average fighter?
            You cant be serious, calzaghe's resume could have been better he could have moved up years ago and fought much better fighters, and he is overrated in the fact that some people rate him as the top fighter in the world or number two.

            The reality is p4p there are better boxers than him out there, and the reality is had he of got in the ring with modern day legends in their prime like roy jones and james toney, he wouldnt be unbeaten.

            Ive always said he is a world class fighter, but in 10 years he has fought about 3/4 legit threats, Kessler aint nothing special, the 168 pound division was nothing special when calzaghe dominated it, lacy was never anything super special, credit to joe, he dominated the guys in his weight class so he is the best at 168, but he somehow managed to not fight just about every prime legendary fighter of his era, as a result his 10 year career is defined by a win over mikkel kessler, hardly the resume of a legend is it?

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              • Oh yes, Amir got knocked down

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                • Originally posted by Technical_Skill View Post
                  You cant be serious, calzaghe's resume could have been better he could have moved up years ago and fought much better fighters, and he is overrated in the fact that some people rate him as the top fighter in the world or number two.

                  The reality is p4p there are better boxers than him out there, and the reality is had he of got in the ring with modern day legends in their prime like roy jones and james toney, he wouldnt be unbeaten.

                  Ive always said he is a world class fighter, but in 10 years he has fought about 3/4 legit threats, Kessler aint nothing special, the 168 pound division was nothing special when calzaghe dominated it, lacy was never anything super special, credit to joe, he dominated the guys in his weight class so he is the best at 168, but he somehow managed to not fight just about every prime legendary fighter of his era, as a result his 10 year career is defined by a win over mikkel kessler, hardly the resume of a legend is it?
                  Originally posted by robjr View Post








                  technical i couldnt agree more, calzaghe is a world class fighter but managed, with a little help from frank warren to swerve the fighters who would have secured a true legacy for him. robjr you got any pics of cal on his arse against kabery salem??

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                  • Originally posted by Technical_Skill View Post
                    You cant be serious, calzaghe's resume could have been better he could have moved up years ago and fought much better fighters, and he is overrated in the fact that some people rate him as the top fighter in the world or number two.

                    The reality is p4p there are better boxers than him out there, and the reality is had he of got in the ring with modern day legends in their prime like roy jones and james toney, he wouldnt be unbeaten.
                    Ive always said he is a world class fighter, but in 10 years he has fought about 3/4 legit threats, Kessler aint nothing special, the 168 pound division was nothing special when calzaghe dominated it, lacy was never anything super special, credit to joe, he dominated the guys in his weight class so he is the best at 168, but he somehow managed to not fight just about every prime legendary fighter of his era, as a result his 10 year career is defined by a win over mikkel kessler, hardly the resume of a legend is it?
                    You say this as if it would've been a certainty.

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                    • Originally posted by adamk1304 View Post
                      You say this as if it would've been a certainty.
                      First of all welcome back.

                      Second of all, although anything can happen in a ring, i cant see calzaghe lasting against those two guys, he had more chance with toney, Jones was a complete no no.

                      But again, thats my opinion, not fact.

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