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  • RichCCFC
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    #311
    Originally posted by divad
    nobody knows how Roy would have faired against Calzaghe in their primes


    everybody thought Mosley would beat Forrest ,yet he proceeded to be thoroughly dominated

    who had Honeyghan beating Curry ,styles make fights u cannot just assume Roy would win
    Exactly. Especially because he have never seen Joe lose, maybe he couldn't lose

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    • Don Johnson
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      #312
      Originally posted by kswizzy99
      pavlik's victory over taylor by ko, is a huge accomplishment considering hopkins, wright and spinks didn't pull that off. and also considering taylor is better than calzaghe and kessler. Its like hatton, if he didn't choose to fight mayweather, he might have gone 55-0, and ppl would've made arguments for him to be p4p #1 and better than mayweather. But this is the beauty of boxing, you get to discuss these things like no other sport. and sometimes you get proven wrong.
      Wright and Spinks aren't even punchers. I can't remember the last time either of them Koed someone. Hatton isn't that great anyway, I knew he never had much of a chance. He's slightly above average at 147 and barely beat Collazo.He was just a blown up light welterweight. None of your arguements are valid.

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      • TheGreatA
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        #313
        IMO RJJ would win against Calzaghe but that doesn't mean a thing because they didn't fight. I always hate it when people use 'he would've beaten all of those guys anyway' as an excuse for a champion not fighting the challengers.

        I've seen people use it as an excuse for Mayweather, Hatton for not fighting Witter/Malignaggi and lots of RJJ fans for Jones fighting, well, almost no one after he beat Toney.

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          #314
          Originally posted by JoeCalzaghe
          Doesn't mean ****. Most of the people on here are yanks and half of them don't know anything about Calzaghe at all.
          Well it's about time his ass grew a pair and started fighting outside of Europe. There aint **** there and don't nobody but yall give two ****s about him. He's a really goood fighter but, he should've came to the U.S a long time ago.

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          • Dynamite Kid
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            #315
            Originally posted by MrUnKnockoutabl
            Well it's about time his ass grew a pair and started fighting outside of Europe. There aint **** there and don't nobody but yall give two ****s about him. He's a really goood fighter but, he should've came to the U.S a long time ago.
            the 2 best SMW are European its that simple get over it

            i hate this kind of ignorant **** it make me ****in sick

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            • squealpiggy
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              #316
              Originally posted by moofo
              Did Roy Jones ever beat Calzaghe at 168????
              Answer is NO.
              So NOBODY can say who would have won.
              FACT.
              It is a fact that saying "FACT." at the end of your post makes it inalienably true. FACT.

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              • PapiShasho
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                #317
                I might've thought about this years ago, when I never really saw Calzaghe fight, but from the thrashing he gave Lacy, I've watched him dominate all of his opponents, and the guy is a champion. To call him overrated is just dumb.

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                • big paulie
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                  #318
                  absolutely, anything can happen in this sport but hypathetically jc would be the underdog in a prime match up with rjj and that would be for a reason. jc has never demonstrated the type of speed, power, ability to floor opponents from freakish angles, blurring combinations, i cant believe im trying to break down how and why rjj would beat jc, for those of you that need reminding just go check a few of their best fights and refresh yourselves. for the kabery salems and mario veits jc fought, rj fought briant brannon and richard frazier but he also beat james toney, b-hop, virgil hill, reggie johnson, mike mcCallum and also good fighters like lou del valle, julio gonzales, montell griffin, clinton woods, oh and a masterclass in winning a portion of the heavyweight title, jc has two marquee names on his record

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                    #319
                    Originally posted by JoeCalzaghe
                    Exactly. Especially because he have never seen Joe lose, maybe he couldn't lose
                    ha ha, if ali, leonard, ray robinson, duran, hagler, chavez can lose im sure ****ing joe calzaghe can lose, but then they're legends because they took dangerouse fights and risks as a matter of routine, jc has taken two risks in his entire career and one of those looks to have been a lemon all along!

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                    • Dynamite Kid
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                      #320
                      Originally posted by big paulie
                      absolutely, anything can happen in this sport but hypathetically jc would be the underdog in a prime match up with rjj and that would be for a reason. jc has never demonstrated the type of speed, power, ability to floor opponents from freakish angles, blurring combinations, i cant believe im trying to break down how and why rjj would beat jc, for those of you that need reminding just go check a few of their best fights and refresh yourselves. for the kabery salems and mario veits jc fought, rj fought briant brannon and richard frazier but he also beat james toney, b-hop, virgil hill, reggie johnson, mike mcCallum and also good fighters like lou del valle, julio gonzales, montell griffin, clinton woods, oh and a masterclass in winning a portion of the heavyweight title, jc has two marquee names on his record
                      debatable wether Roy would have beaten McCallum in his prime the McCallum Roy beat was WAY past it

                      just because u beat better opostition dont mean u would dominate another fighter who's record is possibly lesss stellar than your own

                      BTW we are talking about a prime Calzaghe not the Rookie that defeated Eubank ,let me just remind u that Montell Griffin was outboxing RJJ untill Roy hurt him

                      Roy was beatable why do people think he was untouchable

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