Would Tsyzu have been a better opponant for PBF?

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  • Parody
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    #21
    Originally posted by JoeCalzaghe
    Prime Kostya vs Prime Mayweather @140 is a real pick em fight.
    Haha, no its not.

    If Sharmba Mitchell, Oktay Urkal and Vince Phillips can outpoint you in a fight then you cant beat a Prime Mayweather. Remember Kostya won some of his fights while being behind on scorecards, stopping and Knocking out his opponents, I dont think he could have knocked out a defensive genius like Floyd in the ring who was by every means a better fighter.
    Last edited by Parody; 12-30-2007, 10:24 PM.

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    • warp1432
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      #22
      Originally posted by gavinz1970
      I have never said that Floyd ducked anyone. But for anyone to say that Gatti was not a much easier choice at 140 than Tszyu and that Baldomir was not a much easier choice at 147 than Margarito, well that's just........
      well I agee with Gatti, but I'm not sure Mayweather would have had a harder time with Margarito. He probably would since Baldomir was a walk in the park for him, but Baldomir was decent.

      Stil I think Margarito would have been crushed by Mayweather, but he probably would have been more active then Baldomir.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Parody
        Haha, no its not.

        If Sharmba Mitchell, Oktay Urkal and Vince Phillips can outpoint you in a fight then you cant beat a Prime Mayweather. Remember Kostya won some of his fights while being behind on scorecards, stopping and Knocking out his opponents, I dont think he could have knocked out a defensive genius like Floyd in the ring who was by every means a better fighter.
        According to you, no one can beat Mayweather.

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        • Parody
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          #24
          Originally posted by Mike Bison
          According to you, no one can beat Mayweather.
          According to you everyone including Margarito can. Infact you will just go on to find fighters that could beat him.

          I have actually posted fighters that could beat Floyd Mayweather and keeping it real, Tsyzu on his best day would lose to Floyd.

          Originally posted by Mike Bison
          Margarito will fight Cotto and after he beats him no one will have a reason to duck Margarito besides fear.
          Originally posted by Mike Bison
          Margarito is an elite welterweight whether you want to admit it or not.
          LOL.

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          • Jim Jeffries
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            #25
            Originally posted by warp1432
            well I agee with Gatti, but I'm not sure Mayweather would have had a harder time with Margarito. He probably would since Baldomir was a walk in the park for him, but Baldomir was decent.

            Stil I think Margarito would have been crushed by Mayweather, but he probably would have been more active then Baldomir.
            I think Mayweather could/would have beaten Margarito as well. But Margarito is a much harder hitting, more active, stronger, younger and better opponent than Baldomir. Like I said, Floyd beats Marg anyway, but like other very talented fighters before him, Floyd has not taken the toughest challenges out there for him. Hatton, instead of Cotto, Williams, Clottey, etc (all much tougher challenges at WW.)

            I'd probably pick the bigger money fights as well, but he does open himself up to some criticism by doing so.

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            • cuzfozzy
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              #26
              i think tszyu could even beat mayweather today
              tszyu knocks out all runners ...

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              • pbftxrs316
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                #27
                Originally posted by gavinz1970
                I think Mayweather could/would have beaten Margarito as well. But Margarito is a much harder hitting, more active, stronger, younger and better opponent than Baldomir. Like I said, Floyd beats Marg anyway, but like other very talented fighters before him, Floyd has not taken the toughest challenges out there for him. Hatton, instead of Cotto, Williams, Clottey, etc (all much tougher challenges at WW.)

                I'd probably pick the bigger money fights as well, but he does open himself up to some criticism by doing so.
                please, floyd gets criticized for walking too fast. he'll get criticized for anything, because of how he acts outside the ring to you people, so you find ways to bash his legacy and more, so don't give me this bull**** excuse.

                btw, i didn't see any fighter beating floyd at 140, he was too much of a brilliant killer at that weight class, yet, was smart as ****, and as skillful as ever. also, floyd's defense was still great and he took good punches and shook them off. kosta would have not been a tougher opponent than hatton imo because hatton had faster footwork and pressured a lot better, but against floyd, you have to have a damn near perfect night to have a chance of beating him, especially at 140. kosta would have lost and lost badly imo to floyd. floyd was too brilliant for him. and kosta was pretty accurate, i'll give him that and great power in his right hand, but floyd also set don a lot on his punches and he was faster with power more than i have ever seen him in any weight class. floyd was too fast for kosta and was way more accurate than kosta was at 140, hands down, floyd's accuracy has always been great, but at this weight, his combinations were pinpoint and sharp as ****. again, imo, this was floyd in his prime at 140 in 2005. he was really aggressive at this weight and knoew where to punch at all times. and of course he was very, very, very flexible at 140. he was extremely flexible at this weight class. kosat would have been in for a long night, and not taking anything away from him, but kosta waited too long in a few of his fights to set his opponents up for power shots like his right hand. floyd took advantage of every minute in his fights at this weight class.

                i actually saw floyd knocking kosta down a few times if this fighit ever occured. kosta would not have landed many clean punches on floyd at all.

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                  #28
                  kostya would knock him out in 5

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                    #29
                    If Zoo fought Mayweather with a 10 pounds advantage back in 2005, he would have a slim chance of decisioning him by being the aggressor and making it physical. If any Zoo fought the Mayweather that showed up on 12/8, he gets his ass kicked.

                    Like all the fighters Mayweather faced Zoo would not be landing any of his money punches (straight right from a distance...LOL, nothing easier to deflect with Mayweather's defense). If they fought now he would also get mauled on the inside.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by pbftxrs316
                      please, floyd gets criticized for walking too fast. he'll get criticized for anything, because of how he acts outside the ring to you people, so you find ways to bash his legacy and more, so don't give me this bull**** excuse.

                      btw, i didn't see any fighter beating floyd at 140, he was too much of a brilliant killer at that weight class, yet, was smart as ****, and as skillful as ever. also, floyd's defense was still great and he took good punches and shook them off. kosta would have not been a tougher opponent than hatton imo because hatton had faster footwork and pressured a lot better, but against floyd, you have to have a damn near perfect night to have a chance of beating him, especially at 140. kosta would have lost and lost badly imo to floyd. floyd was too brilliant for him. and kosta was pretty accurate, i'll give him that and great power in his right hand, but floyd also set don a lot on his punches and he was faster with power more than i have ever seen him in any weight class. floyd was too fast for kosta and was way more accurate than kosta was at 140, hands down, floyd's accuracy has always been great, but at this weight, his combinations were pinpoint and sharp as ****. again, imo, this was floyd in his prime at 140 in 2005. he was really aggressive at this weight and knoew where to punch at all times. and of course he was very, very, very flexible at 140. he was extremely flexible at this weight class. kosat would have been in for a long night, and not taking anything away from him, but kosta waited too long in a few of his fights to set his opponents up for power shots like his right hand. floyd took advantage of every minute in his fights at this weight class.

                      i actually saw floyd knocking kosta down a few times if this fighit ever occured. kosta would not have landed many clean punches on floyd at all.
                      Man, I would say Mayweather/Kosta would have been a much closer fight than what you stated especially since you say that Mayweather was unbeatable...etc. Bro who the hell did Mayweather fight @140....Granpa Gatti, Sharmba "I'm waiting to retire" Mitchell, and Henry "Who" Bruceles...get real these opponents would have made anybody look like a god in the boxing ring at 140 lbs.

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