Cassius Clay V Rocky Marciano

[Richard Dilliar]

Clay V Rock

Did that fight really happen? I've heard rumours that they fought or sparred or something shortly before Marciano died, anyone know anything about it?

There was a computer simulated fight between the two in the mid early
1970's. Both fighters sparred separately and the images were fed into the computer. After fifteen rounds, according to th ecomputer, Rocy won a decision. Clay discounted the results by saying the computer was made in Mississippi. This computer fight was actually one of the first pay for view.

[Greatwhitehope]

I thought I read that Marciano won by knock out in the 14th

[Silencers]

They filmed several different endings and Rocky winning by 13th round KO was the one the computer chose as the most likely scenario. And they actually did spar together.

[moofo]

The story goes that they chose not to use head shots but could hit to the body.
Also Rocky had to wear a wig to try look the part even though he was in his 40's at the time....Ali kept flipping this wig off and the Rock got fed up and the story goes Rocky floored Ali with a body shot which took him a good few minutes to recover from.
I think Marciano would have had every chance against Ali because there was another small Heavyweight called Smokin Joe who dealt with him in his prime.
Joe Louis admitted on record that at any time in his career the Rock would have beat him as well.
People always underestimate Rocky due to his size when the fact is it was never really a problem for him.
He had exceptional strength for his stature.
And a fine pair of whiskers too.

[sterling]

WEll i duno about rocky winning i dont think he was fast enough ali was too tall for rocky to get inside.

[Silencers]

I think Ali would keep him on the end of his jab and dance around him. I don't think Ali would have gotten caught by a flush Marciano punch.

[moofo]

If Smokin Joe Frazier could Hit Ali then Believe me so could Rocky Marciano.
And he would never have taken a backward step or tired like George Foreman did.

[Silencers]

Frazier used a lot more head move to get inside on Ali. Marciano didn't have the same head movement. Frazier's head movement didn't allow Ali to land his jab like he would have liked to do.

[moofo]

Frazier used a lot more head move to get inside on Ali. Marciano didn't have the same head movement. Frazier's head movement didn't allow Ali to land his jab like he would have liked to do.

Do you think Rocky would not have landed anything seriously?
And remember they would have fought a 15 round fight as well.Rocky Marciano was as busy in the 15th as he was in the 1st.
No disrespect to Ali but he wasn't untouchable and was hit many times as well.
I am not saying Ali wasn't great but he wasn't this mythical fighter that could never be beaten which a lot of people seem to believe.

[Silencers]

Do you think Rocky would not have landed anything seriously?
And remember they would have fought a 15 round fight as well.Rocky Marciano was as busy in the 15th as he was in the 1st.
No disrespect to Ali but he wasn't untouchable and was hit many times as well.
I am not saying Ali wasn't great but he wasn't this mythical fighter that could never be beaten which a lot of people seem to believe.

Rocky could land a few shots, especially to the body, but nothing flush to Ali's head. I agree that Marciano's stamina was unbelievable but Ali was at his best in the last few rounds as well. My thinking is that if Jersy Joe Walcott was beating Marciano through 13 rounds, Ali could do it for 15.