Cotto: "Hatton was overrated"

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More revisionism. Hatton fought well up until the sixth round. To say Hatton was not feinting on the way in is a lie. Some people might eat that kind of thing up but I'm not going to let it go unchallenged. You are a liar and this seemingly endless crusade against Hatton is getting a little tiresome.

And this "up until the sixth round" fiction is the same story that hatton is spewing in a desperate attempt to blame the penalty. Weak attempt.

[Mozza]

And this "up until the sixth round" fiction is the same story that hatton is spewing in a desperate attempt to blame the penalty. Weak attempt.

Another lie. Nobody mentioned the penalty and if anything the penalty seemed to signal more of a change in Floyd than it did in Hatton but don't let that stop you trying to tell people what they really mean.

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Dios the original forum downey

[TheGreatA]

Cool. I agree with almost all of your points.

We only diverge on Hatton being an inteligent pressure fighter. He applied pressure, but it was some of the LEAST intelligent pressure I have ever seen. No jab. No feints. He DID come in on straight lines. Got hit by the SAME punches over and over.

The reason that Roger called him a "blown up clubfighter" is that "Hatton comes in with no jab. Just his face." And, predictably, what happened?

Floyd was mocking Hatton on 24/7 for his wide, looping hooks. What was hatton throwing when he got introduced to the ringpost? A wide, looping left hook.

It didn't seem too intelligent to me either but I think that's part of why I think Mayweather was a bit underrated. Hatton said on 24/7 that he could easily walk through Mayweather's shots and that's when I knew he was going to lose (well I knew he was going to lose when the match was signed but that made me even more sure).

I saw De La Hoya's knees buckle when he was hit by Mayweather's counterpunch and that's when I knew Hatton couldn't just walk through his shots.

The Mayweather camp did make some ugly comments about Hatton but I doubt they actually meant that Hatton was a clubfighter or a bum or anything like that. Just some hype and trashtalking mixed with the truth.
They were valid criticisms about Hatton but it's not like he was exposed as a total bum. The tactics Hatton used against Mayweather would still work on most of the fighters on LWW division.


I really wanted to see this match because I knew Hatton would bring the fight to Mayweather.
This was one of the more entertaining fights Mayweather has had recently.

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don't let that stop you trying to tell people what they really mean.

Not to worry. It won't.

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Dios the original forum downey

You just got here. It gets better.

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Who called out who first?
Hatton wanted the fight

I don't think that's necessarily true. Hatton paused a bit when Max Kellerman asked him if he had anything to say to Floyd, then it appears he remembered Floyd was 'retired' when he blurted out the 'his whole career' comment.

Yeah. Floyd had a whole three fights at Welterweight. The nerve of this champion who is 148 on fight night fighting a guy like Hatton who is only 154 on fight night.

Graham: "Floyd is DEFINITELY not bigger than Ricky. Definitely not.

Yeah. Ricky should've destroyed Mayweather.

Cotto should call Mayweather overrated if he truly wants to fight Floyd.

Cotto needs to do much more than that. Namely, keep winning and stay undefeated. If he can topple everyone put in front of him, Floyd will call him out for another record breaking PPV extravaganza.

Haha, Cotto trying to lure Mayweather out for the big money fight - it'll happen sometime if Cotto keeps winning and unifies at 147.

As far as his comment itself - there is some truth to it.

The Hatton-Mayweather outcome was the product of a number of factors.

1) Mayweather is a much better boxer
2) Mayweather was more comfortable at 147
3) Hatton isn't the boxer he was 3-4 years ago (seriously
4) Hatton was overrated
5) Hatton was pretty ****** during the fightin that order of significance.

Floyd was asked various times about Ricky's style of fighting, and he would say He (Ricky) makes a lot mistakes. A LOT of mistakes.

I mean people who picked Hatton underrated him.

Everyone knew what Hatton would bring. I don't think he was overrated when people said he was a relentless, intelligent pressure fighter.

People who picked Hatton cited the Castillo - Mayweather I fight as evidence while ignoring the rematch where Mayweather was 100% and beat Castillo clearly. They also seemed to forget how well Mayweather handled pressure against Jesus Chavez and Baldomir.

People thought Mayweather would fold under Hatton's pressure and thus, were underrating him. Mayweather doesn't fold.

Also people thought his punching power and strenght were below Hatton's.
That was underrating him also.

Not too intelligent.

Cool. I agree with almost all of your points.

We only diverge on Hatton being an inteligent pressure fighter. He applied pressure, but it was some of the LEAST intelligent pressure I have ever seen. No jab. No feints. He DID come in on straight lines. Got hit by the SAME punches over and over.

The reason that Roger called him a "blown up clubfighter" is that "Hatton comes in with no jab. Just his face." And, predictably, what happened?

Floyd was mocking Hatton on 24/7 for his wide, looping hooks. What was hatton throwing when he got introduced to the ringpost? A wide, looping left hook.

I honestly thought, and actually hoped, Ricky and his team would be working to tweek Ricky's style a bit to improve his chances of putting up a better fight, if not actually winning it.

[Mozza]

I honestly thought, and actually hoped, Ricky and his team would be working to tweek Ricky's style a bit to improve his chances of putting up a better fight, if not actually winning it.

Change it how? Use the jab more? It would never have worked in a million years for Hatton and people who think it will work for Cotto are kidding themselves I think.

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It didn't seem too intelligent to me either but I think that's part of why I think Mayweather was a bit underrated. Hatton said on 24/7 that he could easily walk through Mayweather's shots and that's when I knew he was going to lose (well I knew he was going to lose when the match was signed but that made me even more sure).

I saw De La Hoya's knees buckle when he was hit by Mayweather's counterpunch and that's when I knew Hatton couldn't just walk through his shots.

The Mayweather camp did make some ugly comments about Hatton but I doubt they actually meant that Hatton was a clubfighter or a bum or anything like that. Just some hype and trashtalking mixed with the truth.
They were valid criticisms about Hatton but it's not like he was exposed as a total bum. The tactics Hatton used against Mayweather would still work on most of the fighters on LWW division.


I really wanted to see this match because I knew Hatton would bring the fight to Mayweather.
This was one of the more entertaining fights Mayweather has had recently.

I recently watched FMJ-JLC 1. It was interesting to see Floyd backing up and you can tell that he WANTED to land that 'check hook' , but Castillo never opened up for it.

Check out 2:10, and then 1:15 of this round as examples.

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Change it how? Use the jab more? It would never have worked in a million years for Hatton and people who think it will work for Cotto are kidding themselves I think.

Not relying on that mile-wide hook. Throwing straight punches. There have been short fighters who throw jabs and straight punches: Pernell, Duran, Camacho, etc.