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  • Cutthroat
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    #11
    Kessler doesn't punch very hard, so I doubt he'd be able to KO Pavlik at 168 even Taylor. Out of all the fighters that won by TKO against Porras, Kessler took the longest to do it, with Miranda doing it the fastest. I think Pavlik and Miranda at 168 both have more power than any SMW currently fighting. Taylor's chin is questionable, but he's definately faster than Calzaghe.

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    • RichCCFC
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      #12
      Originally posted by Hooks
      Kessler doesn't punch very hard, so I doubt he'd be able to KO Pavlik at 168 even Taylor. Out of all the fighters that won by TKO against Porras, Kessler took the longest to do it, with Miranda doing it the fastest. I think Pavlik and Miranda at 168 both have more power than any SMW currently fighting. Taylor's chin is questionable, but he's definately faster than Calzaghe.


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      • Ryn0
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        #13
        Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
        begs the question, how many divisions do you think are better than super middleweight?
        Just Welterweight

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        • Ryn0
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          #14
          Originally posted by Hooks
          Kessler doesn't punch very hard, so I doubt he'd be able to KO Pavlik at 168 even Taylor. Out of all the fighters that won by TKO against Porras, Kessler took the longest to do it, with Miranda doing it the fastest. I think Pavlik and Miranda at 168 both have more power than any SMW currently fighting. Taylor's chin is questionable, but he's definately faster than Calzaghe.

          Pavliks chin is questionable Kessler punches much harder than Taylor and is a better finisher, you statement about Kessler's punching power is ridiculous and his boxing skill is far above Pavlik and Miranda's. He would stop Pavlik. Have you ever watched Calzaghe fight? he is MUCH faster than Taylor he beat ANY middleweight and super-middle right now and pretty much more light-heavy's with the exception perhaps of Chad Dawson because he is younger, bigger and fast with lots of talent but it's very reasonable to say Calzaghe beats him as well.

          Just because a fighter beat another quicker doesn't mean he is more powerfu, Baldomir KO'd Judah and Mayweather went the distance with him. it's quite clear there that Mayweather is the more powerful puncher. Kessler would murder Miranda and beat Pavlik.
          Last edited by Ryn0; 12-25-2007, 09:08 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Ryno113
            Pavliks chin is questionable Kessler punches much harder than Taylor and is a better finisher, you statement about Kessler's punching power is ridiculous and his boxing skill is far above Pavlik and Miranda's. He would stop Pavlik. Have you ever watch Calzaghe fight? he is MUCH faster than Taylor he beat ANY middleweight and super-middle right now and pretty much more light-heavy's with the exception perhaps of Chad Dawson because he is younger, bigger and fast with lots of talent but it's very reasonable to say Calzaghe beats him as well.

            Just because a fight beat another quicker doesn't mean he is more powerfu, Baldomir KO'd Judah and Mayweather went the distance with him. it's quite clear there that Mayweather is the more powerful puncher. Kessler would murder Miranda and beat Pavlik.
            I can only agree with that.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Ryno113
              Pavliks chin is questionable Kessler punches much harder than Taylor and is a better finisher, you statement about Kessler's punching power is ridiculous and his boxing skill is far above Pavlik and Miranda's. He would stop Pavlik. Have you ever watch Calzaghe fight? he is MUCH faster than Taylor he beat ANY middleweight and super-middle right now and pretty much more light-heavy's with the exception perhaps of Chad Dawson because he is younger, bigger and fast with lots of talent but it's very reasonable to say Calzaghe beats him as well.

              Just because a fight beat another quicker doesn't mean he is more powerfu, Baldomir KO'd Judah and Mayweather went the distance with him. it's quite clear there that Mayweather is the more powerful puncher. Kessler would murder Miranda and beat Pavlik.
              co-sign, good post.

              What I wanted to say but I couldn't be bothered

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              • TheGreatA
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                #17
                If Pavlik were to be dominated by Kessler and knocked out I would like to see it with my own two eyes. I don't think he will be dominated but I do think it will be a good fight.

                After Pavlik is done with the middleweight division (or gets exposed as a bum or something) and Kessler gets some of his titles back I would like to see this match made.

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                • Brian13
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                  #18
                  Middleweights are better John Duddy would beat all the top super middleweights with the exception of Calzaghe, and it is a division which will always get better compared to super middle which is just middle rejects.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Brian13
                    Middleweights are better John Duddy would beat all the top super middleweights with the exception of Calzaghe, and it is a division which will always get better compared to super middle which is just middle rejects.
                    Are you really 13 years old?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Parody
                      Are you really 13 years old?
                      I think a lot of the people on here are. I can't believe some of the things that get said.

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