best finisher ever

[mrpain81]

A danish writer at ringside claims that he was told by Mickey Duff that he (Duff) had seen the scorecards and that Griffith was the winner. Take it for what it is worth, it has never been confirmed by Duff.

Hey aztec you got my PM?

[Azteca]

Hey aztec you got my PM?

Yeah man. I actaully saw that yesterday on sherdog.

You sure do cause alot of **** on that site man.

[THE REAL NINJA]

Hearns Leonard and were bigger then Hagler they are both taller and both made the weight. Duran started fighting at 15 years old so that he was a feather weight stuff doesn't count,he was right around the same size.

[mrpain81]

Yeah man. I actaully saw that yesterday on sherdog.

You sure do cause alot of **** on that site man.

I know, Im probably going to get banned.

[Azteca]

I know, Im probably going to get banned.

That sites funny. Reminds me alot of this site where 95% of the guys just talk total ****e.

[mrpain81]

That sites funny. Reminds me alot of this site where 95% of the guys just talk total ****e.

This site has acctually gotten alot better latelly.

when I first got here, the trolls were making all these race threads.

[Azteca]

oh yeah. Most of the guys talk **** though, IMO.

Reminds me alot of this site though. They have some funny 20 page threads like we do.

Like that guido thread. Hilarious.

[Sweet Pete]

and the other guys were MULTI division champs. hearns killed himself to make 147. Killed.

Oh and instead of having same day weigh in and by Hagler weighing in at 158 for most of his fights, his opponents were able to blow up.

Thus making them actually 'bigger', but not real middleweights.

But dont tell Peetie that.

What is your point? I said earlier that the quality of Hagler's smaller opponents were slightly better than Monzon's, so I agreed there. I said Monzon's bigger opponents, guys who were pure MW's, were easily better.

Also, I rate Griffith and Napoles above Hearns in my all time P4P list, even though I'd have Hearns beating Napoles head to head.

[Sweet Pete]

Hearns Leonard and were bigger then Hagler they are both taller and both made the weight. Duran started fighting at 15 years old so that he was a feather weight stuff doesn't count,he was right around the same size.

Leonard was bigger than Hagler? I don't give a goddamn if he was taller, do you think Corrales was bigger than Tyson as well? Leonard was not a natural MW at all, Hagler was clearly the bigger man. Hearns was at his best at 147 and 154, but was a very good MW still. Just like Griffith was at his best at 147, but was a very good MW. Griffith's career at MW outdoes Hearns's career as well.

Hagler has Leonard, Hearns, and Duran. At the state they were, he lost to one of them and was taken the distance by a natural LW. Monzon stopped both of his smaller opponents, Griffith and Napoles, and was taken the distance once. Still, I give Hagler the slight edge in competition of his smaller opponents.

Monzon definitely faced the better full time MW's though.

[K-Nan]

What is your point? I said earlier that the quality of Hagler's smaller opponents were slightly better than Monzon's, so I agreed there. I said Monzon's bigger opponents, guys who were pure MW's, were easily better.

Also, I rate Griffith and Napoles above Hearns in my all time P4P list, even though I'd have Hearns beating Napoles head to head.

So you rank Carlos Monzon higher than Hagler?