Shane Mosley And Steroids

[MindBat]

You know what?

If he admitted using EPO, that's one strike on him.

If EPO can only be administered intravenously, that's strike two.

You would think the suppliers would also supply an alibi in case the athlete got busted?

[Dick-Sucker]

I was a major Mosley fan before the confession. But im not now. I went for Cotto because of that. I think a drug cheat should not be in the HOF. Just like any other sport. E.G Marion Jones.

And to me the argument others are doing it doesn't sit well. E.G Marion Jones. In athletics im sure everyone else is doing it.But you have to take a stance.

[THE MASTERKUSH]

It doesn't change much to be honest. If anything it just made him worst and if he stopped doing it and didn't do it before I have no problem with that.

thats how i feel.
felt he suffered the consiquences of being off roids when he lost to vernon and fights after. his stamina was shot.

[Dick-Sucker]

thats how i feel.
felt he suffered the consiquences of being off roids when he lost to vernon and fights after. his stamina was shot.

So would he feel weak? after he stopped taking them?

[Allucard]

If you are an intelligent person, which I'm sure Shane is. I'm sure he could easily pass a lie detector.

Wrong. You need to know how they work, to be cool as a rock (not necessarily intelligent) and to expect every question.

[Dick-Sucker]

Wrong. You need to know how they work, to be cool as a rock (not necessarily intelligent) and to expect every question.

I was watching CI the other day. And this murderer past it easy.

They said he was just really calm.

Whats the point of having a test if you can pass it. Lie detector makes no sense to me.

[MELLY-MEL...]

I was a major Mosley fan before the confession. But im not now. I went for Cotto because of that. I think a drug cheat should not be in the HOF. Just like any other sport. E.G Marion Jones.

And to me the argument others are doing it doesn't sit well. E.G Marion Jones. In athletics im sure everyone else is doing it.But you have to take a stance.

i feel the same way bro! cheatin is cheatin!

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Wrong. You need to know how they work, to be cool as a rock (not necessarily intelligent) and to expect every question.

IT WAS NOT AN INDEPENDENT LIE DETECTOR TEST. IN FACT, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT HE ACTUALLY TOOK A LIE DETECTOR TEST.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Where's the proof???
**** you Dios

"Unknowingly, yes, some of the substances they are talking about, were being used as part of the workouts," Mosley told ESPN.com. "I didn't know what the (heck) it was.

"I didn't know anything about that stuff. It was something given to me, pushed up on me. I'm a health freak-type of guy. I like to have everything organic, natural."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2007-09-28-mosley-report_N.htm

SOOOOO... **** YOU, KOOPA.

[JoeJacoby]

Report: Mosley admits 'unknowingly' using steroids
By Ed Mulholland, US Presswire

Shane Mosley said in a report that he "unknowingly" took substances from BALCO before a 2003 fight.


Boxer Shane Mosley is accused of using BALCO designer steroids "the clear" and "the cream" as part of a doping regimen before a 2003 fight against Oscar De La Hoya, SI.com reported Friday.
Citing multiple unidentified sources who attended an international anti-doping conference in Colorado Springs, last November, SI.com reported that lead BALCO investigator Jeff Novitzky alleged that Mosley began using those two drugs, as well as EPO, two months before the light middleweight championship fight won by Mosley.

A BALCO client, Mosley was subpoenaed in the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative investigation and testified before the grand jury in 2003. He had always denied doping and has never tested positive.

But Mosley on Friday confirmed that he had unknowingly taken some banned substances.

He said that his former strength and conditioning coach, Darryl Hudson, convinced him to take substances from BALCO, and that he unaware of what they were.

"Unknowingly, yes, some of the substances they are talking about, were being used as part of the workouts," Mosley told ESPN.com. "I didn't know what the (heck) it was.

"I didn't know anything about that stuff. It was something given to me, pushed up on me. I'm a health freak-type of guy. I like to have everything organic, natural."

He had said earlier Friday that he was upset that the matter had come up again.

"I'm disappointed that this is coming out again, four years after I've been to the grand jury and gave my truthful testimony," Mosley said in a statement issued by publicist Debbie Caplan. "I even took a lie detector test back then to let everyone know that I wasn't trying to be an unfair fighter."

According to SI.com, evidence seized during the BALCO raids showed Mosley had blood work done to measure his hematocrit level, the volume of red blood cells, at 44. In a calendar with his file, the date of July 26 was circled, accompanied by the word "start" and the letter "e," the website reported, and the boxer's level increased to 52.2 by Aug. 8.

"Most men are in the low 40s," Dr. Gary Wadler, a member of the World Anti-Doping Association, told SI.com. "Anything over 50 is considered off the charts."

According to that same calendar, Mosley received a final dose of EPO, which stimulates red blood cell production, on Sept. 8, five days before the fight, SI.com reported.

Victor Conte, the BALCO founder, was released from prison in March 2006 after pleading guilty to selling designer steroids.

"We went out there and I left him (Conte) a check for $1,500 with my name on it, and from then on I never saw him again," Mosley said Friday. "But from the beginning I had them contact the Nevada State Athletic Commission to make sure there were no problems. They got the banned substance list and I was told that nothing I was being given was on that list.

"I was upset because I didn't even need to go there," he said, meaning he didn't feel he needed any help for the matchup with De La Hoya. "I already felt that I was the better man and the better fighter. I wondered why I had to get in the middle of this type of scandal. It was kind of crazy and I felt used."

Blood doping has long been an issue in cycling and running, where athletes have boosted red blood cells to increase the capacity to carry oxygen to the muscles.

Mosley is scheduled to fight Miguel Cotto on Nov. 10 in a WBA welterweight title bout.





Shane Mosley admits to using BALCO steroids

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BY TIM SMITH

DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Saturday, September 29th 2007, 2:14 AM

Shane Mosley said last night that he inadvertently took two designer steroids — "the cream" and "the clear" — before his championship fight against Oscar De La Hoya in 2003 after he was misled by BALCO founder Victor Conte about what he was actually taking.

"We were misled (by Conte)," Mosley told the Daily News. "I guess I got the clear and the cream."

Conte disputed that in an e-mail response to The News. "I've never misled or deceived any athlete," Conte wrote in the e-mail. "I've always been a man of full disclosure."

According to a report on SI.com yesterday, Mosley used the two types of designer steroids and EPO two months before his junior middleweight championship fight against De La Hoya in 2003.

Mosley said that his strength and conditioning coach at the time, Darryl Hudson, took a list of the substances Mosley believed he was using to the Nevada State Athletic Commission before his fight with De La Hoya and was told none of them were on the banned list.

Mosley said he didn't want to take any kind of drug or workout aids.

"To be honest with you, I told them I was already in great shape," he said, adding that he met Conte one time and gave him a check for $1500. "I didn't want to take anything. I didn't need anything. He (Conte) assured me it should be on the up and up. He assured me I'd never have a dirty test."

The SI.com report cited several unidentified sources who attended an international anti-doping conference in Colorado Springs last November where the government investigator in the BALCO case, Jeff Novitzky, said that Mosley began using the substances.

Mosley said he became aware that he might have used steroids after Conte was indicted "and I saw this guy on television."

Mosley said Hudson tried to reach Conte but that he would not return calls. "I saw this guy one time," said Mosley.

Mosley was subpoenaed in the BALCO investigation and testified before a federal grand jury in 2003. He has always denied using steroids and has never tested positive.

Mosley won a 12-round unanimous decision against De La Hoya in Las Vegas on Sept. 13, 2003. Oddly, Mosley is now working as head of boxer development at Golden Boy Promotions, De La Hoya's company. Mosley said then that he contacted the Nevada Boxing Commission about what he had been taking and they told him that nothing he was using was on its list of banned substances.

Mosley, 35, is currently training in Big Bear, Calif., getting ready to fight Miguel Cotto for the WBA welterweight championship at Madison Square Garden on Nov. 10. Ron Scott Stevens, the chairman of the New York State Athletic Commission, could not be reached for comment on whether the allegation that Mosley used designer steroids and EPO — a substance that increases the volume of red blood cells and the oxygen carrying capacity in the blood — would have an impact on his being licensed in New York for the fight against Cotto.

According to the SI.com report, evidence seized during a raid of BALCO showed that Mosley had blood work done measuring his hematocrit levels — the volume of red blood cells. There was also a calendar in Mosley's file with July 26 circled accompanied by the word "start'' and the letter "e" by Aug. 8 and it noted that his levels had increased from 44 at the start to 52.2 (an abnormally high level) on Aug. 8, according to the report. In his statement Mosley does not address the issue of whether he took EPO.

Mosley said he recalled taking two blood tests "to see if I was low on iron or calcium."

"I know in my heart that I'm a clean guy and a good guy," he said, "and I think all the fighters, promoters and even the boxing writers know what type of person I am, what type of fighter I am, and I don't need that type of edge. My record speaks for itself in this matter, I've always been a clean fighter, and I have nothing to hide. That one little hiccup should never have happened, and it won't happen again."