Clottey beats Cintron IMO

[Del Coqui]

if this fight is made, im betting on Clottey by decision. i have not seen combination punching like his in a while and Cintron crumbles under pressure. Feliciano showed that if you could hang in there with Cintron and actually fight him back, you will have success. as long as Clottey does not fade late, he should be fine.

Maybe.... But Clottey also fades in fights, he's not reckless and doesn't have Feliciano's determination. He doesn't pressure like Feliciano did against Cintron.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Dude, go back in the thread and answer it yourself.





Dude, you are right about that. And don't get me wrong, it should be a hell of a fight. But Clottey is not far better than Mathesse, Estrada, Suarez. They all were boxers who had 1-2 loses when they faced Cintron. But people here dismiss the fight like it is an easy fight for Clottey. And that is entirely wrong.

i see what you are saying but Clottey is a lot better than any of those fighters because he is a top 10 ranked welter. those were decent fighters but they were just tune ups for Cintron and not a real threat. and i dont think nobody would beat Cintron easy. Cintron is a good fighter and has a punchers chance of course but i just see Clottey edging him. i think Cintron would win the early rounds while Clottey is getting adjusted to his style, then i see Clottey coming on late and dicouraging Cintron, out working him, and sweeping the late rounds. this IS opinionated so neither of us is wrong.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Maybe.... But Clottey also fades in fights, he's not reckless and doesn't have Feliciano's determination. He doesn't pressure like Feliciano did against Cintron.

LOL! didn't we have this same arguement a while back? Clottey has not fadded, he has had hand problems and have been taking the last few rounds off. he runs marathons and is in perfect condition.

[MaFu MoFo]

again, walter Mathesse was not ranked anywhere. Alverez, the dude that Clottey fought last night was actually ranked in a few organizations. make your next move

Dude, Walter Mathesse was 26-1 with 25 Kos when he fought Kermit Cintron. The same Mathesse that gave an elite WW hell for 10 rounds. How can you dare to dimish that win by KO in the 2nd round. Suarez was the bigger guy in the fight. Estrada went toe to toe with another elite WW. How can you dare to dimish his accomplishments in those fights.

Agaisnt Margarito, I already posted. The Feliciano fight was ****, but Da Killer claimed he was "injured". I am close to the health care. Unless there was a fracture, I believe Kermit was exagerating. I had never bruise a knuckle bad enough to show the kind of pain Kermit claimed he had. And the tendon injury theory is bull****. You can't hurt a tendon with a fist punch injury. You need a puncture kind of trauma to injure a tendon. No matter what, the win was disappointing compared to what we are used to from him. Then again, it is part of a progressing and maturing process all boxers go through. The same experience he lacked when he fought Margarito. Look at Cotto now, and compare him to 2-3 years ago. Kermit is on a process. I laughed when he called out Mosley and mayorga, then again, you never know.

Whatever it is that Emmanuel Stuart saw on Kermit to call him up 2 days after losing to Margarito must be good enough to create an "elite WW". I just hope Kermit beats Clottey and Margarito next in order to start showing he can be consider elite. Until then, Kermit is a good boxer with great power that can't be understimated by NO ONE in the WW Division.

[Del Coqui]

LOL! didn't we have this same arguement a while back? Clottey has not fadded, he has had hand problems and have been taking the last few rounds off. he runs marathons and is in perfect condition.

NO! What are you short on memory or something? That time was Williams vs Cintron. Hands problems? Ok, I'll buy that in the Margo fight, but against Felix Flores, he looked abit winded by the end of the fight.

[MaFu MoFo]

i see what you are saying but Clottey is a lot better than any of those fighters because he is a top 10 ranked welter. those were decent fighters but they were just tune ups for Cintron and not a real threat. and i dont think nobody would beat Cintron easy. Cintron is a good fighter and has a punchers chance of course but i just see Clottey edging him. i think Cintron would win the early rounds while Clottey is getting adjusted to his style, then i see Clottey coming on late and dicouraging Cintron, out working him, and sweeping the late rounds. this IS opinionated so neither of us is wrong.

I respect this point of view... read my WW Ranking threads. I hope Cintron stays focused the whole fight if Kermit can't KO Clottey before the 8th round. Clottey has shown to lose stamina after the 8th when facing a real challenge and getting hit back with power, not like soft punched Alvarez.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Dude, Walter Mathesse was 26-1 with 25 Kos when he fought Kermit Cintron. The same Mathesse that gave an elite WW hell for 10 rounds. How can you dare to dimish that win by KO in the 2nd round. Suarez was the bigger guy in the fight. Estrada went toe to toe with another elite WW. How can you dare to dimish his accomplishments in those fights.

Agaisnt Margarito, I already posted. The Feliciano fight was ****, but Da Killer claimed he was "injured". I am close to the health care. Unless there was a fracture, I believe Kermit was exagerating. I had never bruise a knuckle bad enough to show the kind of pain Kermit claimed he had. And the tendon injury theory is bull****. You can't hurt a tendon with a fist punch injury. You need a puncture kind of trauma to injure a tendon. No matter what, the win was disappointing compared to what we are used to from him. Then again, it is part of a progressing and maturing process all boxers go through. The same experience he lacked when he fought Margarito. Look at Cotto now, and compare him to 2-3 years ago. Kermit is on a process. I laughed when he called out Mosley and mayorga, then again, you never know.

Whatever it is that Emmanuel Stuart saw on Kermit to call him up 2 days after losing to Margarito must be good enough to create an "elite WW". I just hope Kermit beats Clottey and Margarito next in order to start showing he can be consider elite. Until then, Kermit is a good boxer with great power that can't be understimated by NO ONE in the WW Division.

Walter Mathesse's spirit broke when he was TKOed by Paul Williams and embarrassed for the first time.. but he was not ranked at all. he had a good record but was mentally shot. He didn't even get to land on Cintron or get into his grove so Cintron was not tested in that fight.

[slicksouthpaw16]

I respect this point of view... read my WW Ranking threads. I hope Cintron stays focused the whole fight if Kermit can't KO Clottey before the 8th round. Clottey has shown to lose stamina after the 8th when facing a real challenge and getting hit back with power, not like soft punched Alvarez.

where are your rankings at?

[MaFu MoFo]

Walter Mathesse's spirit broke when he was TKOed by Paul Williams and embarrassed for the first time.. but he was not ranked at all. he had a good record but was mentally shot. He didn't even get to land on Cintron or get into his grove so Cintron was not tested in that fight.

Partially agreed. Dude, I had seen those 5 minutes of a fight like a 1,000,000 times. MATHESSE ACTUALLY WAS THE FIRST ONE TO COME UP STRONG AND STARTED TO APPLY PRESSURE. You may see Kermit was surprised Mathesse came to fight in the first round. Sadly for Walter, he chose the wrong guy to pick up a fight with. It was not the same kermit who got humiliated by margarito. Walter was KO while been KO. It was brutal. The Ref could not get there on time to stop the fight. Mathesse will FOR SURE develop Parkinson's after that devastating beating. Kermit ended Mathesse career. And BTW, Walter was not soften by PW first.

Kermit KILLED Mathesse!!!

[MaFu MoFo]

where are your rankings at?

Will bumb it now....