Whose The More Supreme Boxer-Roy Jones Or Floyd Mayweather?

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  • THe TRiNiTY
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    #11
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    lol? everyone has key ingredients in there game that make them who they are... no kidding if you take it away there less of a fighter... a huge portion of mayweathers talent is based on his speed and athleticism as well.... the reason he can duck out of the way from those shots and use that shell.. is his speed

    But I took out only ONE key ingredient.. And it was the same for both fighters. Take it away from Roy, he's an above average fighter. Take it away from Mayweather, he's still a REALLY good fighter. Floyd ducks shots, true. But he has a better OVERALL defense than Roy did, anyway. Shoulder rolls, the ducking, head movement. He can pick off shots. Better in-fighting, CLEARLY.

    Speed and athleticism, are different, by the way. You can run fast without having athleticism. 100m dash, needs only speed. Hurdles, needs both. Big difference. Roy needed BOTH to stay on top. Mayweather would only need one of the two, speed.

    Roy < Floyd

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      #12
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      to say pbf has a better chin than roy is a tad ridiculous... roy DID take heavyweight right hands.... i HIGHLY doubt a true 140 lb pound fighter can take a right hand from a 240 pound fighter....
      And Mayweather took flush punches off hard hitting Light Middleweight. he also has took flush punches off Castillo, Corley, Chavez, Jones never took hard flush punches on the chin. Because he was so much better than his opposition. And getting sparked out twice by fighters who aren't exactly hard punchers, gives the advantage to Mayweather in chin department.

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        #13
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        lets also not forget you guys are bringing up 35 year old roy jones and not 28 year old roy jones.... floyds 30.... lets see if were still saying the same things 5 years from now.... its not real fair to compare an out of prime roy to a prime floyd
        I'm bringing up the best of them. I think, p4p, the best Floyd beats the best Roy. We'll never know, so it doesn't matter. I just see it that way.

        Floyds biggest problems are allegedly in-fighters and jabbers. Roy was neither.

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          #14
          Mayweather is the better technical boxer. Jones is more athletically gifted, so I voted Mayweather.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Burning Desire
            And Mayweather took flush punches off hard hitting Light Middleweight. he also has took flush punches off Castillo, Corley, Chavez, Jones never took hard flush punches on the chin. Because he was so much better than his opposition. And getting sparked out twice by fighters who aren't exactly hard punchers, gives the advantage to Mayweather in chin department.
            jones DID take hard flush punches... go watch ruiz jones... round 1... he took 3 right hands in a row from a 240 pound fighter.... floyd could not take that? no way...

            and also... didnt happen til he was 35...its a little premature to say floyd has it in the chin department... and a 140 lb fighter isnt takin a 240 pound punch... just... noooo
            Last edited by THE REED; 12-21-2007, 09:40 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              jones DID take hard flush punches... go watch ruiz jones... round 1... he took 3 right hands in a row from a 240 pound fighter.... floyd could not take that? no way...

              and also... didnt happen til he was 35...its a little premature to say floyd has it in the chin department... and a 140 lb fighter isnt takin a 240 pound punch... just... noooo
              That's not what p4p means. It means, if everyone were the same size.

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                #17
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                jones DID take hard flush punches... go watch ruiz jones... round 1... he took 3 right hands in a row from a 240 pound fighter.... floyd could not take that? no way...

                and also... didnt happen til he was 35...its a little premature to say floyd has it in the chin department... and a 140 lb fighter isnt takin a 240 pound punch... just... noooo
                Well of course Mayweather couldn't take punches off Heavyweight he started off as Super Featherweight. Jones is one of my favorite fighters of all time, but he never had his chin tested in his prime i do remember he took 1 or 2 right hands from Ruiz, but not really flush hard punches plus Ruiz is not a hard puncher.

                But i will give Jones credit for taking them punches from a man who outweighed by 30 + pounds and it was also amazing achievement winning Heavyweight title. But Mayweather also took flush punches off a man who outweighed him by over 20+ pounds, aka Oscar De La Hoya. Im pretty sure i remember seeing that some where that On fight night Oscar De La Hoya outweighed Mayweather by 20 pounds or something like that ?? and Mayweather also took flush punches from Castillo who outweighed him by 12 pounds. But Roy Jones got sparked out twice by fighters who are not considered hard punchers, yes i know he was past his prime and he would of mopped floor with both of them in his prime. But it doesn't change the fact he was sparked out by fighters who aren't considered big punchers. Im not saying Jones has weak chin because they were perfectly timed punches, but i believe Mayweather has the edge in chin department.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by C-Drone
                  That's not what p4p means. It means, if everyone were the same size.
                  ok ill agree with that then.. p4p.. he prolly has a better chin... but u do agree... floyd couldnt take the shots from ruiz that jones did... right?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Burning Desire
                    Well of course Mayweather couldn't take punches off Heavyweight he started off as Super Featherweight. Jones is one of my favorite fighters of all time, but he never had his chin tested in his prime i do remember he took 1 or 2 right hands from Ruiz, but not really flush hard punches plus Ruiz is not a hard puncher.

                    But i will give Jones credit for taking them punches from a man who outweighed by 30 + pounds and it was also amazing achievement winning Heavyweight title. But Mayweather also took flush punches off a man who outweighed him by over 20+ pounds, aka Oscar De La Hoya. Im pretty sure i remember seeing that some where that On fight night Oscar De La Hoya outweighed Mayweather by 20 pounds or something like that ?? and Mayweather also took flush punches from Castillo who outweighed him by 12 pounds. But Roy Jones got sparked out twice by fighters who are not considered hard punchers, yes i know he was past his prime and he would of mopped floor with both of them in his prime. But it doesn't change the fact he was sparked out by fighters who aren't considered big punchers. Im not saying Jones has weak chin because they were perfectly timed punches, but i believe Mayweather has the edge in chin department.
                    ill agree.... but he did take 3 FLUSH right hands from ruiz in the first round... he did

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      ok ill agree with that then.. p4p.. he prolly has a better chin... but u do agree... floyd couldnt take the shots from ruiz that jones did... right?

                      The same shots Jones was able to handle would affect Floyd way more than they did Jones. I don't know how badly, because weirder things have happened. But, Floyd would be in worse shape than Jones was.

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