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  • SkillspayBills
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    #11
    I think Williams being a long SOUTHPAW, is what is Mayweather's real kryptonite. Even Sharmba gave Floyd some difficulty because of him being a southpaw. Time will tell, hopefully.

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    • THE REED
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      #12
      Originally posted by The_Executioner
      None of the welterweights would beat Floyd. Late in his last fight Paul was getting hit by slow ass Margarito. And yeah Paul throws a lot and lands...against opponents who stand right in front of him. Floyd is going to be on the defensive waiting for Paul to leave himself open. Paul's never fought someone as skilled offensively and defensively as Floyd. If Paul's chin isn't up to par HE CAN GO DOWN. Remember where you heard it, if they ever fight.

      Has Paul Williams chin ever been tested?
      i agree with you... except for has his chin ever been tested.. margarito started testing his chin at the end of their fight... and paul stood up to it... but like u said... floyd woulddnt just be standing there waiting for paul to throw barrages

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      • RodBarker
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        #13
        Originally posted by Asian Sensation
        My friend Shaun George called me up just now and we were talking boxing. He told me about when he saw Mayweather sparring in the Olympics with Terrence Cauthen, a southpaw boxer/puncher. He said Mayweather had no answers to when Cauthen popped his jab and moved to his right, making Mayweather circle to his own right. Shaun said Cauthen was really giving it to Mayweather bad.

        Spadafora, another southpaw mover, also did the same kind of thing against Mayweather.

        Zab did the same thing in the first half of the fight and got off to good effect also. I'm convinced more than ever that Paul Williams is just too perfect in his style for Mayweather to win.
        Your citing something 10 yrs ago and a spar , LOL ,,, do you really think a fighter of Mayweathers ability is at their personal performing best 24/7 ,,, this is why they have camps to get ready for a big fight , you just dont turn it on like a switch and dont you think Floyd has learned more since he started .

        Lots of people can go alright with Floyd for a few rounds and then he just breaks them down over the course , a fight is a dymamic thing that goes through hills and valleys as it evolves , a fighter makes some moves and the other makes adjustments , Floyd is the best adjuster of a fight plan to come along in many many years maybe the best ever , because a fighter does well for a few rounds doesnt mean that he will solve the complete puzzle of Floyd Mayweather .

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        • raysan
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          #14
          Miguel still stands a better chance than Williams, and im not sure how good of a chance that is. Harder puncher than Williams (a volume puncher) and is also naturally left handed so offers more looks to Mayweather, as he does switch in and out of the stance. Cotto is also great at cutting off the ring, which is now like a lost art. Cotto has been groomed to fight Mayweather from the begining so if anyone can beat him Im going with Cotto.

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          • Truth
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            #15
            Whats up Ryan? I'd love to see Paul Williams vs. Money Mayweather. I'd rather see him fight Williams than Cotto.

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            • DLT
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              #16
              asian my friend, I dont think you said anything special. Thats just basic boxing. A southpaw boxer always jabs and circles to his right. All of them do that just like Sweet Pea did.

              Again, if you guys watch the Cotto-Zab fight you will see the same exact thing. Cotto would kill Zab because like an idiot, Zab kept circling left but when he circled right then Cotto could never land on him. People think Cotto showed his vesatility by going Southpaw but thats not true. If you really watch the fight then you would see that Cotto only went southpaw because he couldnt hit Zab when he circled right. Its the samething Sweet Pea said on FNF's after that fight.

              Its still nothing special though. Its just basic boxing that all southpaws do. Spinks and all the others do it. Thats why the southpaws always have the advantage.

              Still, a great fighter always figures it out. Thats why Floyd will struggle early with the lefty's like all the rest do but then you figure them out and they have nothing. Its easy for those guys to look good against Floyd in sparring but in a real fight he would eventually figure them out over the course of 12 rounds.

              I do agree that Williams would give him trouble because of his size and southpaw ability but this circling right thing is nothing special because if your a southpaw boxer then your supposed to circle right. Just like a righty who is a boxer is supposed to circle left. Its just easier for the southpaws because most guys power hand is there right so your circling away from it. Lefty's always have a huge advantage in boxing so I tend not to give them as much credit, including guys like Pac. Everything they do is so backwards that you can hit guys with blind punches and so on. Lefy's fight righties every day there whole career but a righty hardly ever fights a lefty and thats why there will always be trouble. There are only a chosen few who can dominate lefties and Hopkins is one of them. However, Lefty's also have problems with Lefties. Thats why you see guys like Spinks give guys hell but then when he fights Zab he has major problems because he doesnt have that huge advantage anymore and nothing he does fools Zab

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              • nmuburner22
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                #17
                Why is the thread starter talking about some olympic **** 11 years ago.

                jesus.

                Where the hell is Spaddy and Cauthen now???

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                • DLT
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                  #18
                  Sweet pea is one of the purest boxers ever but he still wouldnt be as great as he was if he wasnt a southpaw. On FNF he even said that even I cant circle to my left and get away with it so what makes Zab think he can? Your going right into the guys power hand and you have to cross over your feet if you do that. Going to your right is so much easier and you stay out of reach. Then the eventaully start chasing you and you can dart back in with a straight left. Being a Soutpaw is much easier e****ally if your a boxer who doesnt come forward alot.

                  Ive alway said that right now in his prime I dont think a righty can hit Floyd clean anymore. Thats how great his D is. I honestly dont believe he can be hit clean, atleast not that much. When was the last time you even remember someone doing it? Castillo? Ever since then he cant be hit clean by a righty. A southpaw though can get some good shots on him and thats why he was cautious against Zab because you can have the perfect D and still get hit flush in your nose. Both Chop & Zab did it. Floyd could see the punch coming, put up the perfect D, and still get hit flush. Thats the southpaw advantge

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                  • Steak
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                    #19
                    Mayweather was in the Olympics a million years ago. I think Mayweather is slightly changed by now, at least.

                    the things you need to beat Mayweather are really quite simple...the jab, a quick, cross with the power hand, and a ton of stamina.
                    thing is, you need to be incredibly good at those things. and quick with them too

                    but the punches Mayweather has always been caught with the most were those straight, quick jabs and right/left hands. trying to land a hook on Mayweather is a joke, he basically uses it against you most the time. and youre going to need incredible stamina, because Floyd has it as well. youre going to need 100% of your reflexes all night, no slowing down whatsoever or he will take over the 2nd half of the fight.

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                    • squealpiggy
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                      #20
                      Williams doesn't stick and move, he doesn't fight using his height, he fights a small man fight by throwing a lot of leather. I think Mayweather would outpoint him with relative ease.

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