Yeah....Bika weighng about 195.....standing 6-1...wih wayymore accurate puches......and wayy better skills and WORLD CLASS defense.
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostGlen Johnson and Trinidad was both undefeated when Hopkins beat them and Trinidad had a middleweight title when they fought. Hopkins was still young and green when he fought Roy and was past his prime when he fought Taylor. Prime Hopkins would have beaten Taylor and was more offensive. whats your excuse now?
Get a grip son.
Andlike I asked you BEFORE!
WHO did TITO defeat who was a RENOWNED CHAMP at Middleweight?
As for Hopkins being young & Green against RJJ....he is 4 Years OLDER than RJJ.
Please step outside your box and look in objectively.
Ask yourself WHO Hopkins has beaten his own SIZE of any real Class.
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Originally posted by ItaloYa but from what i saw "and like i said i didnt see the whole fight" he was showing off. With his hands down and ****, then he was putting his face forward waiting for bika to punch him, its just strange and i really feel from those rounds that he wasnt talking it seriously.
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostBika was a top 10 super middleweight and fighting for Calzaghe's belt. why wouldn't Calzaghe take it seriously? and just because Calzaghe didn't take it seriously does not take away from Bika muscling Calzaghe and throwing him off his game.
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Originally posted by moofo View PostGlen Johnson is HOF?
Get a grip son.
Andlike I asked you BEFORE!
WHO did TITO defeat who was a RENOWNED CHAMP at Middleweight?As for Hopkins being young & Green against RJJ....he is 4 Years OLDER than RJJ.
Please step outside your box and look in objectively.
Ask yourself WHO Hopkins has beaten his own SIZE of any real Class.Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 12-20-2007, 05:51 PM.
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Originally posted by PeROxiDE View PostSo if the same Calzaghe who murdered Lacy and convincingly beat Kessler was in that ring, it wouldnt have been any different? I can see where your coming from, and you do have a point, but Calzaghe was so far ahead of the rest of the top 10 that he didnt take 90% of his defenses seriously, by his own admission. Maybe "take them seriously" is the wrong phrase to use, "wasnt up for them" would be more appropriate for all of them apart from Bika, who he genuinely didnt take seriously. Something along the lines of "I just humiliated the only real challenger to my title, who the **** is this guy?"
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostWilliam Joppy was a force to be reckoned with, a champion, and still in his prime when Tito beat him. besides Hopkins, Joppy was the best MW when Tito beat him. does that anwser your question? and age means nothing in boxing. if you are younger than me and started your career before i did, i am still green and you are more experiencd. whats your excuse now?
WHO did Joppy beat?
Seriously you are digging a hole here.
Hopkins started his pro career in 1988.
Roy Jones in 1989.
So YET AGAIN your argument falls down.
Step back and look objectively.
Where is your excuse now?
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Originally posted by moofo View PostAre you trying to say Joppy was a real Class act at MW?
WHO did Joppy beat?
Seriously you are digging a hole here.
Hopkins started his pro career in 1988.
Roy Jones in 1989.
So YET AGAIN your argument falls down.
Step back and look objectively.
Where is your excuse now?
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostJoppy was world class, elite, a champ, and rated number 1 in the division and thats a pretty big accomplishment. Benrard had to wait until Joppy was past his prime and recked by Trinidad until he finally fought him because Joppy had so much skill in his prime and would have gave him fits. and when Roy and Hopkins fought, those were the days when Hopkins didn't have his ora down yet so he was still green. the Hopkins that fought Johnson had his ora down and was at his peak. he devoloped boxing skills and started to come in with ring smarts and game plans. now whats your excuse?
Thankyou for proving your entire argument to be worthless.
You have failed to answer any of my questions.
The reason being is that Borehard has NEVER beaten ANYONE his own size who was a true accomplished fighter in their prime.
I can at least accept that you are too small minded to realise this.
Therefore our time discussing the subject is over.
At a guess I would say you are a Black man of the age 19-25.
No racial slur here ..just an eductaed guess.
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i dont see bhop doing much more than kessler! especially at 42 years old! he is not gonna deal well with joes size, speed, and work rate. bhop is not nearly active enough to even throw 1/2 as much as joe, so he has to knock him out cause he aint getting a ud! but this is boxing and anything can happen.Last edited by MELLY-MEL...; 12-20-2007, 06:28 PM.
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