Mythical Matchup: Wlad vs. The World

[duffgun]

yep. ike had only 14 ko's in 20 fights yet he's a monster to some becuase he went 10 rounds and won a very close fight with one dimensional david tua and was the first to over power little byrd. the ignorance in this thread is making me sick. glad at least a couple of us have some good sense

thats **** because liston had 11ko's in his first 20 fights. If you look into the facts a bit more you will find that ike was facing decent opponents for a novice. byrd won the IBF title so you cant say he is ****.

[paul750]

Now you're saying Tua isn't powerful because he's short? Dear god. As for the Byrd fight, Tua never landed any clean shots.

I'll tell you something, saying Klitschko would KO Ike in 4 is a damn sight more outlandish than anything pro Ike. From the evidence that there is.

[paul750]

He had 15 KO's and two of his UD'S were against people who have never been knocked out [Tua and Wilson].

[duffgun]

wlad dominated every round with byrd whereas byrd was giving ike problems until he caught byrd against the ropes. wlad is more patient than ike and would have got byrd out sooner if he was more agressive. wlad beat byrd more impressively in my opinion. I had the ike byrd fight even until the knockout

how can a 5th round KO after winning all but one round be less impressive than a shut out UD?

[beez721]

Now you're saying Tua isn't powerful because he's short? Dear god. As for the Byrd fight, Tua never landed any clean shots.

I'll tell you something, saying Klitschko would KO Ike in 4 is a damn sight more outlandish than anything pro Ike. From the evidence that there is.

you have some reading comprehension problems my friend. I didnt say he'd knock ike out in 4 and I didnt say tua had no power. he doesnt have the same effective power as wlad against taller opponents. he was punching up at ike whereas wlad would be punching down on him. it doesnt take a genius to know there's a hell of a lot more leverage in shots being thrown down the pipe on a shorter man. wald is also much more accurate than tua. and yes,,tua did land some shots on byrd. end of story

[Thread Stealer]

yep. ike had only 14 ko's in 20 fights yet he's a monster to some becuase he went 10 rounds and won a very close fight with one dimensional david tua and was the first to over power little byrd. the ignorance in this thread is making me sick. glad at least a couple of us have some good sense

for one, he had 15 kos in 20 fights, a 75%, which is not bad.

second, who cares?

alexis arguello had 13 kos in his first 20 fights.
sonny liston had 10 kos in his first 20 fights.

big deal.

ike beat two young undefeated top 10 contenders in his short career. nothing specal, but two better wins than anything an overrated quitter like quitali quitschko ever had.

[paul750]

you have some reading comprehension problems my friend. I didnt say he'd knock ike out in 4 and I didnt say tua had no power. he doesnt have the same effective power as wlad against taller opponents. he was punching up at ike whereas wlad would be punching down on him. it doesnt take a genius to know there's a hell of a lot more leverage in shots being thrown down the pipe on a shorter man. wald is also much more accurate than tua. and yes,,tua did land some shots on byrd. end of story

I was referring to run. And the stuff you're talking about has no evidence whatsoever as far as I'm aware. David Tua and Mike Tyson etc throw very very hard shots, if they didn't, they'd have little else. It's a major reason for their success. They hit hard, period. Now start talking some sense.

[duffgun]

you have some reading comprehension problems my friend. I didnt say he'd knock ike out in 4 and I didnt say tua had no power. he doesnt have the same effective power as wlad against taller opponents. he was punching up at ike whereas wlad would be punching down on him. it doesnt take a genius to know there's a hell of a lot more leverage in shots being thrown down the pipe on a shorter man. wald is also much more accurate than tua. and yes,,tua did land some shots on byrd. end of story

yes but byrd had a good chin. Its not always true that punching down is an advantage guys like valuev are so tall compared to his opponents that he cant get much leverage onto his shots. Remember tyson knocking out all those big guys you are trying to sound smart.

[Knicksman20]

tua wasnt past his best at that point and was in terrific shape at 228 lbs. he did land some shots on byrd but byrd took them. tua's power is overrated. besides ruiz who the hell has he knocked out? friggin hasim no chin rahman went 20 rounds with tua for christ sakes

Tua's dedication was in question at that point & he was over 230 lbs. for that fight. I almost positive of that. Tua's power overrated? That's a first & I highly doubt that it. Just because he went the 20 rounds with Rahman doesn't mean anything. Bone Crusher Smith went the distance with Tyson but was knocked out by lesser punchers. So by your logic Tyson's power would be overrated.

[Derranged]

70's Foreman would destroy anyone is this division, including Lennox. Guy was a monster...