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  • PeROxiDE
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    #31
    Originally posted by Kaynan
    LOL at that Hopkins/Calzaghe comparison list.

    Putting Veit and Reid alongside ANY of Bernard's 5 is serious self-ownage.
    Veit was undefeated when he met Joe (both were 30-0) and Reid was a WBC champion, and most importantly they were the same size as Joe, which I think is the whole point of that comparison, to point out Bernard has beaten smaller opponents in his most impressive fights, and lost to people the same size as him.

    I'm not happy about Reid being in Calzaghes best wins though, Reid beat him....and it hurts to say that, I like Joe and cant stand Reid, but its the truth.

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    • Knicksman20
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      #32
      Originally posted by The_Bringer
      To be quite honest, and this is the only time I'll ever say this in "Non Stop Boxing", probably not. At this stage of his career with his current work rate he'd get UD'd unless he was able to pull some tricks out of his sleeve, But I've been a Hopkins fan for more years than I can count, and I can't stop supporting my guy and backing his reign even when the odds are clearly against him.
      I'm not so sure Bringer. Hopkins has a way of making EVERYONE fight his ugly ass fight. He also fights south paws very well. We'll see soon enough what he has left in the tank.

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      • Miki Nakayama
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        #33
        Before Mayweather, Hatton hadn't fought anyone. Unless you count a Castillo there for a paycheck as an opponent.

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        • K-Nan
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          #34
          Originally posted by Miki Nakayama
          Before Mayweather, Hatton hadn't fought anyone. Unless you count a Castillo there for a paycheck as an opponent.
          He fought Zoo... And with that, I have a little rant.

          How is it that the Hatton win over Kostya Tzsyu is continuously brought up by Hatton's fans, when he won that fight in the dirtiest fashion? The same way that the Hattonites complained about the Mayweather reffing-- wait, not the same way. Cortez didn't allow dirty punches to be landed. He even warned Floyd for the elbows. But in the Hatton-Zoo fight, we see complete bias for Hatton- yet all of you seem to now acknowledge that? Explain yourselves..

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            #35
            Originally posted by PeROxiDE
            Veit was undefeated when he met Joe (both were 30-0) and Reid was a WBC champion, and most importantly they were the same size as Joe, which I think is the whole point of that comparison, to point out Bernard has beaten smaller opponents in his most impressive fights, and lost to people the same size as him.

            I'm not happy about Reid being in Calzaghes best wins though, Reid beat him....and it hurts to say that, I like Joe and cant stand Reid, but its the truth.
            Veit was his size but had a relatively unknown resume. Being undefeated means nothing in this sport; It's who you fight that counts. Reid is a larger self-ownage, though. LOL...

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            • PeROxiDE
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              #36
              Originally posted by Knicksman20
              I'm not so sure Bringer. Hopkins has a way of making EVERYONE fight his ugly ass fight. He also fights south paws very well. We'll see soon enough what he has left in the tank.
              You have to really look at the quality of southpaws he was facing though, can you really say any of them were of Joe Calzaghe quality?

              Before anyone hits me with Winky Wright, Winky was at a major disadvantage before he entered the ring, for the purpose of this comparison he doesnt count.

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                #37
                Originally posted by PeROxiDE
                You have to really look at the quality of southpaws he was facing though, can you really say any of them were of Joe Calzaghe quality?

                Before anyone hits me with Winky Wright, Winky was at a major disadvantage before he entered the ring, for the purpose of this comparison he doesnt count.
                Do tell? How was Winky so severely disadvantaged? This ought to be entertaining.

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                • PeROxiDE
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Kaynan
                  Veit was his size but had a relatively unknown resume. Being undefeated means nothing in this sport; It's who you fight that counts. Reid is a larger self-ownage, though. LOL...
                  I dont think I understand this statement, in his prime, Reid was a quality fighter, if he was JC's only loss, it would still be nothing to be ashamed of.

                  Reid would also have been undisputed SMW champion had he not been robbed against Sven Ottke. (I'm starting to get sick of the phrase "if he hadnt been robbed against Sven Ottke)

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by PeROxiDE
                    You have to really look at the quality of southpaws he was facing though, can you really say any of them were of Joe Calzaghe quality?

                    Before anyone hits me with Winky Wright, Winky was at a major disadvantage before he entered the ring, for the purpose of this comparison he doesnt count.
                    Possible but I wouldn't say that Winky was at a severe disadvantage because he's a big guy.

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                    • PeROxiDE
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by StackMo
                      Do tell? How was Winky so severely disadvantaged? This ought to be entertaining.
                      Hopkins- Natural 175 pounder
                      Winky- Natural 147 pounder

                      I would say if someone outweighs me by TWO STONE they kind of have the adavantage.

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