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  • MindBat
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    #11
    In their fight, Mosely made Cotto look fast.

    Shane even admitted he was going for the KO.

    Floyd would box circles around Cotto.

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    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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      #12
      Originally posted by El Dominicano
      nd Paul Williams? How do you think this fight will play off?
      While I give Floyd no credit for dusting off that bum last week, he did validate something for me. Floyd is pretty rugged inside fighter. Kofi Jantuah had said that Floyd was a tough kid, but Kofi is a sparring partner, and they aren't going to badmouth their boss.

      Being a smart fighter, I think FMJ goes inside and neutralizes P-Dub's reach and breaks down his body and hurts and tires Paul. Probably doesn't stop Paul, but wins widely.

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      • -Antonio-
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        #13
        First of all Mosely is no Mayweather and Cotto is no Hatton. Just to clear that up before people say it. Mosely has always been hittable, Floyd has not.

        There's four main things that give Cotto a chance:

        1. Being relaxed in the ring. This is an extremely underrated asset when it comes to fighting Floyd. If you are too tense (Oscar) or wild (Hatton) then you've already lost. You have to fight your fight without letting him get in your head.

        2. Footwork. Cotto can cut off the ring as good as anyone. No he's not as quick on his feet as Hatton, but he knows how to angle his opponents into the ropes with foot positioning.

        3. The Jab. As seen in the Mosely and Judah fights, Cotto's jab is a punch to be reckoned with. This is an important punch because when Floyd reacts to the jab he either pulls back or rolls his shoulder. Jabbing Floyd into the ropes or corner is one of the very few moments where you can catch Floyd in a vulnerable position.

        4. Body punching. It's the only way to maybe slow down Floyd. And we know Cotto will hit whatever he can find. I'm not sure Floyd is used to having guys load up on shoulder punches, Cotto will do that. He will also throw behind the elbow even if it's borderline illegal.

        Another thing, Cotto knows the tricks that Floyd does like pulling a fighters head down, locking an arm and punching. He'll use all those tactics as well.

        For Williams it's simple, being Southpaw with his physical advantages and punch out put makes it an interesting fight.

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        • DLT
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          #14
          I think Cotto & Williams both have a good shot simply because of the size. 140 on down Floyd kills everyone easily and KO's most of them but 147 on up the size is going to give him huge problems against all the top guys. The good thing for him is that even though he will never be a real WW or a big WW, he has clearly grown and is much more equipped to fight there now then he was a few fights ago. A year to 2 years ago I would say that he probally wouldve lost to the big guys or he wouldve won a ugly boring fight because he was so small that he would have to run but he's filled out alot more now.

          Floyd doesnt really have any flaws. His only real flaw is that past 140 he is much smaller then the bigger guys and thats a bad flaw to have. Cotto has been looking very good but he is waiting to be exposed. He's had a ton of good matchups. Guys like Zab and Quintana never had a chance and Shane looked old to me. Cotto still gets hit very clean, still rushes in very sloppy at times, and he's still just very flawed overall. I also dont know if he's still a great conditioned guy who can still be really strong late in fights. I really think Floyd can counter and go toe to toe with Hatton. Cotto is definatly more bigger & stronger then Hatton so you would think he would give Floyd hell on the inside but that may not be true. Cotto is still a base fighter who wont hold or wrestle like Hatton does so Floyd wouldnt have to worry about that and his hands would be more free to turn lose with counters & combos. Toe to toe on the inside I still think Floyd can pick this guy apart for stretches.

          Williams is a freak but he's also got flaws. Floyd's arm length is near the same as his. Williams is also super tall but he fights small. He doesnt stand up straight or lean back. He leans forward and bends over which chops his height down. Thats why short guys like Mitchell were able to clock him. As good as Williams is on O, he is equally that bad on D. Guys like Mitchell & Mathsyee clocked him all day but were just too small. If they can hit him that Floyd definatly can and he has much better D then those guys. The thing that makes him the most dangerous is that he is a lefty. In this fight I think Floyd brings out the Winky Wright style that he does every once in awhile. I think Floyd keeps his hands high at all time and walks in behind his gloves and scores alot. I also think that Floyd will bring the fight to him and make it toe to toe alot where Floyd eats up his body and Williams will have a hard time getting leverge on his shots from that close

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          • Sweet Pete
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            #15
            Originally posted by El Dominicano
            1. Please. I would like everyone to explain why Cotto is capable of beating PBF? Why do you think Cotto wouldn't or Would stand a chance against Mayweather??

            2. Also explain to me why Paul Wouldn't stand a chance against Mayweather or Why Paul would be Mayweather' biggest threat. Note: I would like to hear this one from Dios. Since I've heard you say Mayweather would hit that long body.

            My opinion

            Cotto would be an easy win for Mayweather. As for Paul Williams! I really don't see how Mayweather would win this one. As much as I'd love to see it. I see Mayweather beating Cotto the same way he beat DLH. Only he'll throw way more punches.
            Cotto would be an even harder fight for Floyd than Castillo, which means it's more than possible he'd lose.

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            • 1pretty boy1
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              #16
              i don't know if cotto can beat floyd,if floyd comes to fight concentrated and with full motivation cotto don't have a chance,williams vs floyd this fight will not happen i think so because williams is not ppv fighter and if he was ppv fighter he will not so much money for floyd and he(floyd)know this and if you want to know what i think is that williams can give floyd a lot of problems because of his height and speed it all depends how floyd adapts to him

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                #17
                Originally posted by El Dominicano
                1. Please. I would like everyone to explain why Cotto is capable of beating PBF? Why do you think Cotto wouldn't or Would stand a chance against Mayweather??

                2. Also explain to me why Paul Wouldn't stand a chance against Mayweather or Why Paul would be Mayweather' biggest threat. Note: I would like to hear this one from Dios. Since I've heard you say Mayweather would hit that long body.

                My opinion

                Cotto would be an easy win for Mayweather. As for Paul Williams! I really don't see how Mayweather would win this one. As much as I'd love to see it. I see Mayweather beating Cotto the same way he beat DLH. Only he'll throw way more punches.
                You pretty much sumed up how I feel concerning Mayweather vs Cotto. And I think that P Will is the only one in the welters that could beat Mayweather. And Margarito fanboys can still suck the fat one...

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                • Tysonisgod
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                  #18
                  mosley is as fast or faster than mayweather. cotto made mosley miss shots and gave some really quick counters that hit home. he's bulkier and bigger than hatton so he has more power and could take floyds punches better. his accuracy improved and showed in the mosley fight. a little more footwork and i think he's got a 50-50 chance.
                  Mosley isnt floyd mayweather tho! and for cotto being biger than hatton, so was de la hoya, so is everyone floyd fights and you dont no if his chin or power is better than hatton. his accuracy maybe has improved but he still gets hit by shots he shouldnt he is not ready for floyd, give it a few years, let floyd fight willams, even tho i dnt think he is ready either

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                  • Mr. Ryan
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by El Dominicano
                    1. Please. I would like everyone to explain why Cotto is capable of beating PBF? Why do you think Cotto wouldn't or Would stand a chance against Mayweather??

                    2. Also explain to me why Paul Wouldn't stand a chance against Mayweather or Why Paul would be Mayweather' biggest threat. Note: I would like to hear this one from Dios. Since I've heard you say Mayweather would hit that long body.

                    My opinion

                    Cotto would be an easy win for Mayweather. As for Paul Williams! I really don't see how Mayweather would win this one. As much as I'd love to see it. I see Mayweather beating Cotto the same way he beat DLH. Only he'll throw way more punches.
                    What Cotto has to feel good about against Mayweather are his youth and size. Cotto is still very young in the game and very confident. He's also much bigger than Floyd Mayweather. He's like Tito Trinidad in that he doesn't care what you give him, on the ears, on the back, in the kidneys or in the ribs, he's going to tee off. Mayweather doesn't give you any clean shots, but a couple of big shots to the arms and his defense will open up a little bit more. I've never seen Mosley sit in the corner and look so shocked by what was hitting him. He made Mosley feel old.

                    What he has to feel bad about is that he's too patient. You can't let Mayweather think in there because no one out thinks Mayweather. On top of that, he doesn't move his head nearly enough and his chin won't win him any awards.

                    It's a good fight, with Mayweather the favorite. But this fight would test Mayweather severely.

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                    • crillz
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                      #20
                      Cotto beats Floyd because he is more controlled, he will take Floyd out of his comfort zone by not falling into the same traps and allowing Floyd to fight his same fight, once he sees that the aggressive style isn't working he will switch up and show his versatility, once Floyd is out of his comfort and zone is forced to fight he will see himself ****ing out with someone who can take everything he will give him and dish out twice as much, it wont be a KO but it will be a close decision for Cotto..

                      Williams wont beat Floyd, Williams is too tall for his own good, Williams can jab but at heart he's a fighter, he ****s out which is why he throws so many punches, he lets loose then clinches when necessary, against Floyd he will see himself against someone with damn near the same reach but MUCH less height so all Floyd would have to do is go low and pop shot his way to a 12 round victory, and if Floyd is smart he would do what he did to Hatton early on and tie up Williams, wear him down and make him miss early on so when the later rounds come and the signs of wear and tear show Floyd can capitalize and secure a wide UD, Williams gives up his reach advantage too much and even Sharmba Mitchell was able to land some good ones due to that..

                      his punch output is bizzare but it wont save him against Floyd who wont sit there and be a target, the similar arm reach will be Floyd's key in keeping range and frustrating Williams by moving and pop shotting, Williams OFFENSE IS his DEFENSE, he throws so many punches he doesn't need to guard, HE CAN but he is usually too busy punching, what will he do when someone like Floyd lunges as low as Williams thigh level with such a good defense where he shells up and the whole time he's hitting him? he wont beat Floyd because he wont get a chance to see him.. 100

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