Most embarrassing defeat of a Fat Yank?

[Benny Leonard]

the thing is, alot of what we had seen of joe were those lackluster showtime fights, just about every american writer, even the ones who arent just knocking a sheer american bias, picked lacy because of it, we just had never seen calzhage come out like that.

Yeah, I never saw Joe that good. He went into a "do-or-die" mode that really upped his game. Maybe he and Frank didn't even know that extra level was there.

When the fight was made I was talking to a friend of mine that used to box and we were discussing the up-coming fight between them. The first thing we discussed was that Lacy threw wide shots while Joe, although sometimes could get sloppy, can throw right down the middle, and as long as he stuck with that, he had a very good shot. It goes back to what Ali said when he fought George: George would throw those big roundhouse shots, and Ali would just pop him with straight shots. You not only are able to land more straight shots against a wide-shot fighter, but also take him out mentally.

To beat a southpaw fighter you have to use the jab and the right-cross, and of course move to your side...something Lacy didn't do much of, if at all.

[Drunk Punch]

Calzaghe did more than just beat Lacy's ass. He ruined him. Just look at Lacy now, the dude's practically shot.

Gets my vote.

[-Antonio-]

The Lacy win has lost some of it's mystique though right? It's pretty clear Lacy was all hype. I'm a fan and all, but he's only slightly above average. Zaghe should have "pwned his ass".

[Lucky13]

Wow....they win a couple of fights and think they can talk ****.

Check you history...and your horizontal heavyweights before you think you have actually won something.

[Randall_Hopkirk]

The Lacy win has lost some of it's mystique though right? It's pretty clear Lacy was all hype. I'm a fan and all, but he's only slightly above average. Zaghe should have "pwned his ass".

Lacy's only damaged goods due to the domination he received. A pre-Calzaghe Lacy would have KO Manfredo in no time at all. I concur he's no great fighter but I still remember how highly he was rated circa 2005.

[Duke McKenzie]

Wow....they win a couple of fights and think they can talk ****.

Check you history...and your horizontal heavyweights before you think you have actually won something.

Actually, this thread was a reaction to another on this board... I was just waiting before someone ****** like yourself came in and took this reaction.

[Welter_Skelter]

thats probably why i said this.

Yes and what I was saying.. is what the NON boxing comunnity thinks in relation to boxing is irrelavent...

Which you somehow seemed to think it was...