Call me CRAZY, but VELERO doesnt hit THAT Hard...

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  • Kball15
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    Call me CRAZY, but VELERO doesnt hit THAT Hard...

    He's a very strong puncher... but he's no Mike Tyson.

    Article after Article called him one of the hardest punchers p4p in the sport. thats rediculous, the guy knocks out rediculously overmatched opponents because he CAN crack a bit, AND he swarms them with shot after shot after shot.

    The guy has absolutely no shot against a class opponent, like Manny Pacquiao or Joan Guzman, and i doubt he could hurt either of them.

    Again, he DOES hit pretty hard, but i can name 10 bigger punchers EASY.

    He just has an astonishing record of all KO's... but then you look at his record and go, "I saw a fighter JUST like this get ****ing exposed in every facit of the game on September first... i think his name was Oganov..."
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    #2
    just look at the title for the boxingscene.com report on the tonights fight. MISMATCH

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    • BmoreBrawler
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      #3
      he hits hard for his weight class.

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      • Parody
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        #4
        Originally posted by Kball15
        He's a very strong puncher... but he's no Mike Tyson.

        Article after Article called him one of the hardest punchers p4p in the sport. thats rediculous, the guy knocks out rediculously overmatched opponents because he CAN crack a bit, AND he swarms them with shot after shot after shot.

        The guy has absolutely no shot against a class opponent, like Manny Pacquiao or Joan Guzman, and i doubt he could hurt either of them.

        Again, he DOES hit pretty hard, but i can name 10 bigger punchers EASY.

        He just has an astonishing record of all KO's... but then you look at his record and go, "I saw a fighter JUST like this get ****ing exposed in every facit of the game on September first... i think his name was Oganov..."
        are you SURE that edwin VALERO does'nt hit that HARD? i mean he HAS an impressive RECORD with none of his FIGHTS lasting the DISTANCE.

        you can NEVER tell until he STEPS the competion up, until then edwin VALERO is a MYSTERY...











































































































        see how annoying it can get.

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        • Kball15
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          #5
          Originally posted by Parody
          are you SURE that edwin VALERO does'nt hit that HARD? i mean he HAS an impressive RECORD with none of his FIGHTS lasting the DISTANCE.

          you can NEVER tell until he STEPS the competion up, until then edwin VALERO is a MYSTERY...
          The captilized words are supposed to EMPHASIZED with some OOPH and PIZAZZ.

          You cant just be Capatilizing WORDS all WILLY nilly or else it ruins its distinctive flow and sexy undertone

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          • -Hyperion-
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            #6
            mosquera was world class...i dont like valero that much to be honest but seriously, he beat mosquera only because he has power, so yeah, he hits very hard.....

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            • Azteca
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              #7
              agree with hype. mosquera was a world class fighter before valero beat him. dude has major pop.

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              • Undefeated
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                #8
                I can't wait untill this guy gets outboxed. Its gonna happen.

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                • Tuggers1986
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                  #9
                  He is good but I think JMM would box circles around his ass all night.

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                  • Fitefreak
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                    Valero is one of the HARDEST punchers at 130. Everyone he faces gets rocked several times during the fights, including Mosquera who'se world class. To say he has NO shot against Pacquiao, Guzman etc. is ignorant because he can always get lucky and land a bomb.

                    That said I do agree that guys like Guzman/Pacquiao etc. would be very difficult for Valero to beat but he most certainly has a punchers chance. And who knows, if he can suck Manny into a brawl he might be able to KO him.

                    Personally I'd prefer to see him matched up against Pacquiao as that could potentially be Hagler/Hearns type war.

                    Oh and Kball you are quite correct about Victor Oganov. His 25-0, 25 KO record was built against scrubs and he was sorely exposed the moment he stepped up against Zuniga.

                    Doug Fischer of Maxboxing is someone who'se opinion I respect. He's spent a significant amount of time watching Valero's career (sparring/early fights etc.) and began heaping praise on Edwin early in his career. Here's what he wrote about Valero in the summer of 06

                    "Phenoms don’t come around very often and when you see them, you recognize them as being a cut above the rest – instantly.

                    Seeing Valero train in Joe Hernandez’s tiny gym in Vernon when the southpaw KO artist first arrived to Southern California from Venezuela in late June of 2003 reminded me of watching Shane Mosley workout at the L.A. Boxing Club in the mid-to-late ‘90s. He was a relentless but precise machine during the floor exercises and bag work and a calculating animal in the ring.

                    Seeing Valero fight at the Irvine Marriott and the Maywood Activity Center in 2003 was reminiscent of witnessing Diego Corrales crush tough journeymen at the Grand Olympic Auditorium in ’98.

                    It wasn’t just the hand speed, footwork, technique and immense physical strength that, like Mosley, Valero possessed. It wasn’t the one-punch knockout power that, like Corrales, he carried in both hands. It was something in Valero’s eyes – the same burning intensity I saw in the eyes of Mosley and Corrales years ago – that told me, his opponents, and the rest of the world: “I will not be denied”."

                    So far the guy's been extremely impressive, owns a World Title and is a hell of a lot of fun to watch.

                    Again, I just hope they match him with Pacquiao instread of Guzman.

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