Ricky Hatton To Decide Billy Graham's Fate

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  • Parody
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    #121
    Originally posted by divad
    all the brits on this site know it is another bull**** story from the sun ,pathetic that they make up storys like this
    Thank you, ive been trying to tell people here The Sun are full of ****, and unless something comes out from a different source dont believe it.

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    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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      #122
      Originally posted by Benny Leonard
      His defense early was what I just put in bold. Plus, Floyd's fighting ways have changed. He has decided to just relax and sit there early in fights, unlike what he used to do.

      Even with Tszyu, Hatton smothered Tszyu with grappling, wearing down the Old champ who only fought 9 rounds in 3 years.

      The fight with Tszyu gave him to much confidence in his strength. Tszyu was known as the strongest MF at 140, and by wearing Kostya down, it must have made him feel like Hercules. But the truth is this, Kostya was 35, had been on the decline for years, injury prone and was in the hospital more than in the ring, 9 rounds in 3 years, inactivity kills, and was still trying to make 140, despite his thick frame. Tszyu felt "flat" which means, no strength, which helped Hatton in the fight, but hurt him in the long run.
      Benny,

      excellent points.

      Also, people criticized Floyd by saying that the Delahoya fight was even through eight, and then Oscar faded because he was 34.

      Well, the Hatton-Tszyu fight was even through eight, and then Tszyu faded. Maybe because he was almost 36? Just maybe?

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      • Parody
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        #123
        Originally posted by Tuggers1986
        Agreed.

        90% of storys in that paper are complete bull****.
        They claim facts which are NOT facts, just assumptions...

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        • Ryn0
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          #124
          The Sun is a tabloid they just like to stir ****. Some stuff is real other pure myth and fabrication.

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          • Franko
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            #125
            Originally posted by divad
            i agree with a lot of what u said

            however PBF has the kind of style where he is able to soak up preassure & sap your energy then capatalise on your mistakes later on in the fight ,Hatton grappling all the while did'nt exactly leave a lot in the tank either

            Hatton got hit more towards the end of the fight more due to fatigue thats why is defence started to leak ,exactly the same as Taylor's did against Pavlik

            Jermain Taylor got away with dropping his hands in the early rounds yet paid for when he tired & his reflexes slowed down ,its like Floyd said do not get tired he seems to capatilise when his oponent tires like the Dela Hoya fight
            My opinion isn't based on the Mayweather fight alone, as like i've stated, there's no shame in losing to the best figher in the world, especially when moving up in weight to do so. I've thought that Billy Graham lacks something technically & tactically for some time. My intention isn't to make him a scapegoat due to the loss against Mayweather, because no matter who had trained Hatton there is a big chance he'd have lost to Mayweather anyway, but i think that there could be something added to his style that would make him an even better fighter, and i don't think that Graham can add that something extra.

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            • Franko
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              #126
              Originally posted by ferocity
              How ****** is this, Ricky fought the perfect fight its not Grahams fault. Unless they are having problems that the media doesn't know.
              Hatton never fought the perfect fight! Have a look at my first post on this thread if you want to know the reason's why i think that. He adopted a Gung-Ho approach at times which is far from fighting the perfect fight, especially when you're fighting the best pound for pound fighter in the world.

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              • moofo
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                #127
                Can anyone produce footage where Billy Graham said anything useful to Hattons tactics?
                Believe me I have nothing but respect for Billy but I don't think he did his job right for this fight
                My personal opinion , perhaps not shared?

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                • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by moofo
                  Can anyone produce footage where Billy Graham said anything useful to Hattons tactics?
                  Believe me I have nothing but respect for Billy but I don't think he did his job right for this fight
                  My personal opinion , perhaps not shared?
                  Moofo,

                  I agree with you.

                  Foe example. Roger said "stop moving away from him. You are hurting him inside". And that is when Floyd REALLY took over. Then Roger told Floyd "You are breaking that ho down".

                  What good counsel did Graham offer? "You can't afford to lose anymore rounds" is bad advice because it makes your fighter desperate. In fact, it isn't advice at all.

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                  • moofo
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                    Moofo,

                    I agree with you.

                    Foe example. Roger said "stop moving away from him. You are hurting him inside". And that is when Floyd REALLY took over. Then Roger told Floyd "You are breaking that ho down".

                    What good counsel did Graham offer? "You can't afford to lose anymore rounds" is bad advice because it makes your fighter desperate. In fact, it isn't advice at all.
                    Exactly Dios.
                    There was no actual tactical advice whatsoever.
                    No matter how sad it is to say...it's the bitter truth.

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                    • mike4819
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                      #130
                      Graham might be the type of trainer who can get Hatten into superb shape, but can't work his corner well. Know when to change or vary tactics during the fight especially with a superb boxer like Floyd. Take a round easy, back up, make him come to you, etc. My two cents worth.

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