Miguel Cotto: "Mayweather Always Makes Excuses"

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  • crillz
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    #81
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    reach

    floyd = 72"
    paul = 82"

    boxrec.com
    I'm talking about shoulder to fist, you talking about fist to fist which includes wing span, Paul got a bigger wing span but equal arms, maybe a inch or 2 more but nothing that Floyd can't handle..

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      #82
      Originally posted by CottoBreaksMen
      ? Cotto must be SURE he can beat that ass.. He must have seen something he liked. He is hungry. Mayweather needs Cotto more. Cotto still has a career of ahead of him of May retires... But Floyd will forever be asked why he chose to retire and NOT face Cotto. History will have Cotto at that nggas door ringing his bell and Floyd hiding behind a couch.
      do you ever ask ray leonard why he never fought aaron pryor?

      does that come to your mind when you think of ray leonard?

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      • crillz
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        #83
        Originally posted by Black Jesus
        do you ever ask ray leonard why he never fought aaron pryor?

        does that come to your mind when you think of ray leonard?
        it comes to my mind only because he so blatantly ducked him, dude ducked like he was getting shot at, Floyd hasn't ducked anyone he just made the right moves but when talks of Oscar arose he fought him, Margarito doesn't even factor in the equation and guys like Judah, Corrales, Castillo, Hatton etc. only made him look better because these are the tougher guys he could have faced, he can walk away knowing he beat these guys and call it a day but Pryor was in Leonard's face, dead in his grill calling him names and begging for the fight and Leonard just turned his neck and moved up, fought a dude Pryor beat in the ametuers and Boxed circles around 2 bigger guys 1 of which quit due to the piss off he felt at Leonard's running, Leonard is a LIVING LEGEND but I always think about the Pryor bout and how it would have happened, just look at Floyd and you'll see he wouldn't have let Pryor run his mouth and move up without closing it.. 100

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          #84
          Originally posted by crillz
          I'm talking about shoulder to fist, you talking about fist to fist which includes wing span, Paul got a bigger wing span but equal arms, maybe a inch or 2 more but nothing that Floyd can't handle..
          oh gosh...

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            #85
            Originally posted by crillz
            it comes to my mind only because he so blatantly ducked him, dude ducked like he was getting shot at, Floyd hasn't ducked anyone he just made the right moves but when talks of Oscar arose he fought him, Margarito doesn't even factor in the equation and guys like Judah, Corrales, Castillo, Hatton etc. only made him look better because these are the tougher guys he could have faced, he can walk away knowing he beat these guys and call it a day but Pryor was in Leonard's face, dead in his grill calling him names and begging for the fight and Leonard just turned his neck and moved up, fought a dude Pryor beat in the ametuers and Boxed circles around 2 bigger guys 1 of which quit due to the piss off he felt at Leonard's running, Leonard is a LIVING LEGEND but I always think about the Pryor bout and how it would have happened, just look at Floyd and you'll see he wouldn't have let Pryor run his mouth and move up without closing it.. 100
            judging by floyds career, he caves in to that kind of ****, a guy like pryor wouldnt have to run his mouth for more than a week before mayweather responded with some ****.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Black Jesus
              do you ever ask ray leonard why he never fought aaron pryor?

              does that come to your mind when you think of ray leonard?

              Pryor was a scary dude.. it all makes sense now. Thanks

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                #87
                Originally posted by c'monmang'
                oh gosh...
                do you understand my point though? I said equal ARMS you talking about fist to fist reach, arm length is measured from the shoulder to the end of the fist, Floyd has like a 26" reach while Williams only has a 26 1/2" or 27" inch reach but since his wing span is so huge when he is measured from fist to fist he is 82" inches.. the size IMO only makes him not only easier to avoid but a bigger target for Floyd. 100

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by crillz
                  do you understand my point though? I said equal ARMS you talking about fist to fist reach, arm length is measured from the shoulder to the end of the fist, Floyd has like a 26" reach while Williams only has a 26 1/2" or 27" inch reach but since his wing span is so huge when he is measured from fist to fist he is 82" inches.. the size IMO only makes him not only easier to avoid but a bigger target for Floyd. 100

                  yes I undestand..you are saying without the back /shoulders inlcuded...

                  i disagree, i dont know where you are getting this from..PW's "arms" a hella longer then Floyds...

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Black Jesus
                    judging by floyds career, he caves in to that kind of ****, a guy like pryor wouldnt have to run his mouth for more than a week before mayweather responded with some ****.
                    EXACTLY, Leonard didn't do that he just moved up and acted like Pryor never was, like he was a dream he woke up from. imagine how bad of a mother****er Aaron Pryor was to be 39-1, 35 KO's? he must have been a bigger beast than we thought, only people who knew him can say for sure so Leonard ducked him, Floyd wouldn't have did that, it took Ricky Hatton just 1 sentence to bring Floyd out of retirement and fight so imagine someone doing what Pryor did to Leonard to Floyd? he would fight them that same night for free. 100

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by c'monmang'
                      yes I undestand..you are saying without the back /shoulders inlcuded...

                      i disagree, i dont know where you are getting this from..PW's "arms" a hella longer then Floyds...
                      check Paul Williams very last fight on HBO's tale of the tape, his arms are only like an inch or 2 longer than Floyd's, dude is a monster but Floyd got freakishly long arms to be only 5'8 with a 26" inch reach, Floyd's reach I know for SURE just check the Hatton fight out he had a 6" reach advantage over Hatton whom has a 20" inch reach, and Paul's arms aren't much longer than those but pay close attention to his shoulder to shoulder length and you'll notice it is strangely wide, not only does Paul give up his height advantage he has damn near equal arm length as Floyd with less power and uses his offense as a replacement for his defense, Floyd would murder dude.. 100

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