Roy Jones Jr. Question...(In reguards to ducking fighters)

[Terry A]

Usually the five fighters that come up when talking about Roy Jones Jr. ducking great competition are...

1.)Gerald McClellan
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...4252&cat=boxer

2.)Nigel Benn
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...0739&cat=boxer

3.)Dariusz Michalczewski
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...4141&cat=boxer

4.) Frank Liles
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...1473&cat=boxer

5.) Chris Eubank
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...0804&cat=boxer

The thing I don't understand is why do people get angry at Roy for not fighting Gerald McClellan. If you look at his career, he got severly injured in 1995. Roy didn't really have much of a chance to fight him. Roy was just becoming a star when he beat James Toney in 1994. And then Nigel Benn, if you look at his career on boxrec, he lost 3 straight starting in 1996. Then he never faught again. Plus I heard Roy did call Benn to make a fight but Benn never called him back( he was going through a divorce). I also heard in a HBO/Jones interview that Frank Liles was offered a fight with Roy but turned it down. So in my opinion the only fighters Roy should have really faught were Michalczewski and Eubank...the others its not really his fault when you reallly look at it. Also he should have faught Hopkins again but even thats not really all his fault. Hopkins made the negoitations just as hard as Jones did. Maybe some of you guys think Roy sould have faught MCclellan and Benn from 1989-1993, but Roy was just starting off at that point. I don't know if he was ready for that kind of comp. All these guy were not at their prime at the time in which the fights could have happened. Correct me if I'm wrong...I don't know about Benn and MCclellan like some of you other guys do.

Truthvito,
That was a nice, well thought out and well put together post.

Personally, I would have loved to see a prime RJ vs a prime G-Man.
If memory serves me correctly, RJ was extra devastated when Gerald got badly injured because they were pals. I think even if G-Man would have stayed healthy & active, I don't think they would have fought. It was not so much one ducking the other as much as a mutual friendship. Sort of like Joe Frazier & Ken Norton never fighting because they were close buddies. They never were accused of ducking each other.

I agree with the other brothers here who said that RJ at least gave the appearance of only ducking Steve Collins. Although I believe in my heart that Jones would have beat him. I have no real clue as to why them two never did fight.

[Orange Sneakers]

Benn had a shadow on the brain after the McClellan fight so that rules him out with a realistic chance of beating Jones (although Steve Collins said recently he and Benn would have KO'd him - then Nigel said 'No, Jones would have killed me' and Collins hasn't spoke to him since!) - his balance was shot to **** in his last five fights, horrible


Eubank is the only unorthodox orthodox fighter with a realistic chance of beating Jones over 12 rounds in boxing history, but he can't keep turning and posing or Jones would jump in and potshot and out again

Michalczewski? I haven't actually seen him fight

As far as ducking, Don King offered Benn and Jones $25million each which Benn accepted while Jones turned down. I believe Jones's people offered Benn $10million, but Benn had signed a new three-fight deal with King after McClellan (and lost to Malinga)

Collins out-priced himself by asking for $5million

Liles wasn't interesting

Eubank wasn't really interested in fighting Jones


The one fighter who Jones wanted nothing to do with was Michael Nunn...

[Xyei]

I wouldn't call this ducking, but I would have loved to see a rematch with either Toney or Hopkins or both. I really would have liked to see Toney vs. Jones at LHW.

[Ryn0]

woaaah...the G-man woul;d not have won a few rounds n lost 2 rounds to 10,lol...G-man had amazing knockout ability....and the fact that roy was isand foreever will be suspect where his chin is concerned,there is a fair hance that if the G-man connected,Roy would be out for the count. Steward said as much...Roy was Lucky not to Face the G-man in his prime,otherwise that career,and that long unbeaten streak...being P4P....hmmm...i doubt any of that would have happened had he faced G-man and been knocked out on his ass.

I think he would have beaten Benn,Benn was far too erratic ...and lost his cool in the ring alot...jones would have just boxed his hed off.

Collins,just wanted to make a big payday...so he aleld Jones out on almsot every tv broadcast he was on. Collins would have had his head boxed of too..he had no power in his punches, but granted he could take a few. Would have been like Calzaghe Vs Lacy.

I think Eubanks awkward style would have given Roy some problems..it would have been a flip of a coin for me. I think Eubank could have beaten him,and i think Roy could have had Eubank. Would have been a great trillogy if it happened like that. Prime for prime,its too difficult to call,cus Eubank was a clever clever, awkward opponent, with a great chin,and real knock out power...he wasnt exactly slow either. We all know RJJ brings all his skills to the table..and it wouldhave made a great bout.

RJJ should have had Hopkins again, about 3 years ago...any fight now,it just wouldnt have the same feel about it,and would be almost worthless...

RJJ prime 4 prime would have been interesting with Calzaghe. Problem being..i think Calzaghe has got better with age (broken hands not inculded)...and RJJ the oposite..so it would have been hard to ever judge them on a even footing. I would still watch a fight between them now tho..both stil very quick and skilled,i would say Calzaghe's better chin, n work rate gives him the win.

I think calzaghe peaked at about 29 it just he was never given a chance to show what he could really do against someone like Lacy or Kessler that would have defined his career at the time.

RJJ would ahve destroyed G-man at his prime with all respect. That suspect chin has only ever been caught twice neither of them were in his prime. RJJ by KO.

[GTL]

Benn had a shadow on the brain after the McClellan fight so that rules him out with a realistic chance of beating Jones (although Steve Collins said recently he and Benn would have KO'd him - then Nigel said 'No, Jones would have killed me' and Collins hasn't spoke to him since!) - his balance was shot to **** in his last five fights, horrible


Eubank is the only unorthodox orthodox fighter with a realistic chance of beating Jones over 12 rounds in boxing history, but he can't keep turning and posing or Jones would jump in and potshot and out again

Michalczewski? I haven't actually seen him fight

As far as ducking, Don King offered Benn and Jones $25million each which Benn accepted while Jones turned down. I believe Jones's people offered Benn $10million, but Benn had signed a new three-fight deal with King after McClellan (and lost to Malinga)

Collins out-priced himself by asking for $5million

Liles wasn't interesting

Eubank wasn't really interested in fighting Jones


The one fighter who Jones wanted nothing to do with was Michael Nunn...

good to see u know your stuff... i really dont think eubank had a chance. they all pose a threat to roy but remember.. jones fought and embarrased a PRIME toney who was like #1 p4p at the time.. toney was a great fighter then

[GearsOfWar]

I heard he asked for a ridiculous amount to fight Calzaghe and I heard hopkins did the same thing. Source is from hbo's boxing website, thats what they said in calzaghes bio and I'm talking about 6 years ago not present time, so don't be upset with me.

[Orange Sneakers]

good to see u know your stuff... i really dont think eubank had a chance. they all pose a threat to roy but remember.. jones fought and embarrased a PRIME toney who was like #1 p4p at the time.. toney was a great fighter then

I don't quite understand what you're saying

Anyway, regarding Toney and Jones, I think Jones would struggle to land a punch on Toney near his best

Eubank had a TERRIFIC stiff jab, a Eubank-Toney fight would 100% depend on whether Toney could read it to avoid and counter because otherwise he would be grinded down

For what it's worth, I think Eubank would have only won the first four rounds against Jones

[Easy-E]

Roy Jones never ducked anybody.
Certian fights could have been made that were not due to money and ego, but it wasnt like Roy was afraid of those guys.

[Terry A]

Roy Jones never ducked anybody.
......it wasnt like Roy was afraid of those guys.

Concur strongly.

[Orange Sneakers]

Steve Collins is a clown. I don't really see him winning one minute against Jones unless Jones let him. That rubbish, lunging style and those girl-like punches - good chin and stubborness though