Best fighter of the past 15 years Jones or Mayweather?
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Roy Jones for me. In his prime there was nobody who could match him, and as mentioned before he didn't lose until he was 35. Lets wait until Mayweather comes back and is in his mid thirties to make this comparison.Comment
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he wont come back, he is slowing and he know he cant fight the way he wants anymore. or should i say run away the way he likes to. fight fans are better off.Comment
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floyd mayweather jr is the greatest fighter of his generation, which means past 15 years or not, it really doesn't matter. i'd say floyd's era began in 1998 after he won his first championship. i've read posts claiming roy was the better fighter, and that's all fine and good, but if you look at stats from both fighters, floyd is the better fighter p4p. i mean, no one's taking away from roy's talent, he was the most unique fighter with talent i've ever witnessed, but he suffered 3 defeats and you can make any excuse for him all you wants, it doesn't negate the fact that he was knocked out back to back by tarver and johnson. him coming down from heavyweight to beat john ruiz, a guy who many people considered one of the worst heavyweights ever, is still an amazing feat, but, that only further proves that skills and a smart mindset wins you fights, not size. floyd mayweather moved up 4 weightclasses and is still undefeated despite being smaller than his opponents, and he came down from 154 to knock out an undefeated fighter and wolrd class fighter in ricky hatton.
look at roy's defining fights, he beat a young james toney, hopkins, beat trinidad in his comeback fight, is about to fight joe c, has a few undefeated fighters on his resume. but, he lost to tarver in their 2nd and third fight, after winning what people call a gift given to him in their 1st fight.
all i read from people on here is in roy's prime, in roy's prime, well, prime or not, the ****er has lost 3 fights. when people say floyd got a gift from castillo, despite being injured and the smaller fighter, he had no excuses, he fought him again, and won again. roy jones had every excuse in the world when he lost to tarver the 2nd time. the reason i bring this up is because many of you posters on here have been riding floyd for several years now for his words, yet, when it comes to him ducking him or ducking him, or this guy, that guy, nobody really rides jones as much as floyd. it sickens me to come on here and continuously read the same bulll**** from people.
me fighting for 8 years of my life, and watching both roy jones's and floyd's careers unfold, i know their fighting styles and i know most of their fights, and floyd mayweather jr is the better fighter, like it or not, i call it like i see.
thing thing that gets me is that when it comes to jones losing to tarver twice and johnson, 2 of those ending in devastating ko's, i've noticed for a few years that you guys just throw that out of the window, yet, floyd beat a castillo with a torn rotator's cuff and rematched him when many felt he lost and beat him again, you guys love to hold on to that first fight.
bring all the excuses you want people, floyd retired undefeated, on top, and with amazing accomplishments, period. roy jones coming down from heavyweight to fight tarver when he had the chance to fight him before moving up is his fault. he was more talented fighter, he was the more known fighter, and he had the power to make tarver move up more than he did to fight him. tarver just wanted the fight. jones rapping and doing all of that outside stuff when he should have been training hard is his fault. age has nothing to do with it. hopkins beat tarver moving up to 175. joe c is fighting at age 35+ and is still undefeated, no excuse. his outside ventures is hsi problem. you tell me how floyd can make a rap song, train for a fight, while participate in dancing with the stars, yet still knockout an undefeated fighter, but roy can't with all of his amazing talent. i mean, floyd has brittle ****ing hands. imagine him heavy handed. floyd fought a de la hoya who people say was part time with his fighting, past his prime, and old, yet, people are claiming that he is going to kill pacman because of the weight difference, well, when you're as skillful as floyd mayweather jr., past or present floyd mayweather jr., size don't mean ****, skills pay the bills as he has often mentioned before and after his fights. if roy jones can go up to heavyweight and fight a john ruiz and get credit for it, then floyd can go up to jr. middleweight and fight an oscar de la hoya who gave himself all of the advantages, and is more accomplished than ruiz and floyd can get credit for it, and he called out oscar more than few times just like he called out mosley back when they were both active.
you ****ers can have your opinion on there 2 all you want, but i've watched all of their fights and many of them in slow motion to study their styles to a tee, so i could compare them like i can. many of you can't say that i bet, but if any of you want to challenge me to prove me wrong, i fully welcome one.
these two are rare, special fighters out of many good fighters that have come along. skillwise, mayweather is better as far as overall skillset, but roy jones jr, is also a very talented fighter with an unbelievable style and he has accomplished a lot in his career, and in his prime, he was imo untouchable in hsi weight classes, but it goes to show, losses mean a little more than nothing when comparing greats, and floyd hasn't lost, ory has 4 times and i know one was a dq, but you have to be smart in the ring, and a few times, roy wasn't, floyd is by far the more intelligent fighter, he's gym rat all year round, he prepares for his fights extremely hard, training a full regiment sometimes twice a day, and watching more than few of his training videos, i can see why he's the most skilled fighter i've ever seen. from his padwork, which is phenomenal to say the least to his jump rope routine which is sick, to him punching the heavybag at the same pace 2500 to 3500 times, to how he does his situps. the man is the best fighter of the past 20 years imo, if not more. he really does have to be at a disadvantage physically for his opponent to have a shot of beating him, and even then, his skillset is too great.
floyd takes this one.Comment
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I have a massive amount of respect for both guys but I would have to go with Roy. The thing that stands out most for me about Roy was just how dominant he was in his prime. I have never seen a fighter that dominant before. Floyd is a great fighter but nowhere near as dominant against lesser opposition.Comment
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