Joe Calzaghe will get revenge for the U.K.

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  • DiegoFuego
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    #41
    Sorry, I don't know why I put "again" in there because Hopkins has never been handed his ass by anybody. I guess I meant "loses" or something. Sorry for the lack of respect.

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    • ßringer
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      #42
      Originally posted by Shanus
      Trinidad and Tarver are nowhere near Calzaghe's level.

      Tarver hasn't been the same since he shot Rocky 6 and Trinidad was punching way above his natural weight class.

      Don't get me wrong, they were great victories, but Calzaghe is better than the pair of them.
      I recall recently people saying Mayweather's recent opponets were nowhere neat Hatton's level too. I realize he's a different fighter than Joe but they're both promoted by the same ****ing scumbag.

      And if what you say is true, about people thinking a win over Calzaghe is better than the Trinidad and Tarver wins (which I don't agree with) then there should be no debate about how great Bernard is once he finally schools Calzaghe.

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        #43
        Originally posted by DiegoFuego
        Sorry, I don't know why I put "again" in there because Hopkins has never been handed his ass by anybody. I guess I meant "loses" or something. Sorry for the lack of respect.
        I forgive you, just don't let it happen again. I'd hate for Bernard to be browsing the forum and read this ****, take it personal, and **** Calzaghe up even worse.

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          #44
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          I recall recently people saying Mayweather's recent opponets were nowhere neat Hatton's level too. I realize he's a different fighter than Joe but they're both promoted by the same ****ing scumbag.

          And if what you say is true, about people thinking a win over Calzaghe is better than the Trinidad and Tarver wins (which I don't agree with) then there should be no debate about how great Bernard is once he finally schools Calzaghe.
          Let me get this straight. Are you saying that Antonio Tarver is better than Joe Calzaghe?

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            #45
            Calzaghe is clearly better than the versions of Tito and Tarver that Bernard fought. If Bernard beats Calzaghe at 42, well, there is nothing to say. It speaks for itself.

            I doubt Bernard beating Joe when he barely beat Winky.

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              #46
              Originally posted by The_Bringer
              If not I'm sure Joe can go back to Wales and pad his record with more tin can opponets. I heard my mailman is being considered as a possible opponet for Calzaghe's title.
              The last time Hopkins took up a challenge like the 1 Joe took in facing a undefeated hungry competitor was against Taylor. He had 2 shots at him and didnt look convincing either time

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                #47
                Originally posted by The_Bringer
                I recall recently people saying Mayweather's recent opponets were nowhere neat Hatton's level too. I realize he's a different fighter than Joe but they're both promoted by the same ****ing scumbag.

                And if what you say is true, about people thinking a win over Calzaghe is better than the Trinidad and Tarver wins (which I don't agree with) then there should be no debate about how great Bernard is once he finally schools Calzaghe.
                If B-Hop beats Calzaghe he's an all time great and nobody at all would doubt that.

                But that victory would mean more than the Trinidad and Tarver wins by far, simply because Tarver never was all that, I knew Hopkins would decision him, perhaps not so easily, but I knew that he'd win, wasn't a doubt in my mind, and the Trinidad victory will forever be disregarded due to obvious reasons, Trinidad was a welterweight.

                Right now he'd be fighting a hungry, skillful, POTENTIAL all time great with more youth and just as much experience (this combination doesn't come together very often) I'll admit I was wide out with the Hatton prediction, and I'm pretty sure that's because I like Ricky more than I did Floyd, now I do like Zaghe more than I do Hopkins, but there is no doubt in my mind that Calzaghe will win this one decisively.

                I'm not bashing Hopkins, he's a great fighter, I just don't think he's active enough to beat Calzaghe.

                BTW, Hatton isn't under the promotion of Frank Warren.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
                  It was very hard watching Hatton lose like that, props to Mayweather, he truly is the #1 p4p fighter in the world and an all time great. I am not British so the loss wasn't that hard for me and I got over it pretty quickly. I admit that Hatton was overrated and I bought into the Limey hype. Hatton has only himself to blame, he is an alcoholic and he consistently ballooned up to a fat **** in between fights, it all finally caught up to him and he paid dearly for it. It's time to move on.

                  Joe Calzaghe is clearly the best U.K. fighter and he will get revenge for the U.K. when he kicks the **** out of Bernard "The Racist" Hopkins. Calzaghe is a way better fighter than Hatton and he will retire undefeated and go down as one of the all time greats. You Americans should enjoy this victory while you can because Hopkins is gonna get schooled and embarrased by Calzaghe, revenge is sweet.
                  The bolded shows that you put way too much emphasis on nationality.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mozza
                    Let me get this straight. Are you saying that Antonio Tarver is better than Joe Calzaghe?
                    At the time Hopkins beat him, yes. Tarver was fresh off of 2 back to back victories over an all time great Roy Jones Jr. One of which was a 2nd round knockout. Calzaghe only has Lacy and Kessler, Lacy has since shown how overrated he was, and Kessler was his only solid opponet.

                    I understand you're wanting to back Calzaghe, and I respect that but I'm speaking on facts alone, not opinion.

                    Calzaghe is clearly better than the versions of Tito and Tarver that Bernard fought. If Bernard beats Calzaghe at 42, well, there is nothing to say. It speaks for itself.

                    I doubt Bernard beating Joe when he barely beat Winky.
                    Barely beat Winky? The scores were 116-112, 116-112, and 117-111. I saw Wright losing nearly ever round of that fight, Hopkins roughed him up badly. It was an ugly fight, but Wright got spanked.

                    And I disagree about the Tarver and Trinidad comparison to Calzaghe, but going over it again is dumb.

                    The last time Hopkins took up a challenge like the 1 Joe took in facing a undefeated hungry competitor was against Taylor. He had 2 shots at him and didnt look convincing either time
                    If Hopkins didn't look convincing either time why are both decisions still disputed to this day? Especially the first time.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Shanus
                      If B-Hop beats Calzaghe he's an all time great and nobody at all would doubt that.

                      But that victory would mean more than the Trinidad and Tarver wins by far, simply because Tarver never was all that, I knew Hopkins would decision him, perhaps not so easily, but I knew that he'd win, wasn't a doubt in my mind, and the Trinidad victory will forever be disregarded due to obvious reasons, Trinidad was a welterweight.

                      Right now he'd be fighting a hungry, skillful, POTENTIAL all time great with more youth and just as much experience (this combination doesn't come together very often) I'll admit I was wide out with the Hatton prediction, and I'm pretty sure that's because I like Ricky more than I did Floyd, now I do like Zaghe more than I do Hopkins, but there is no doubt in my mind that Calzaghe will win this one decisively.

                      I'm not bashing Hopkins, he's a great fighter, I just don't think he's active enough to beat Calzaghe.

                      BTW, Hatton isn't under the promotion of Frank Warren.
                      Hopkins is gonna get shamed against Joe Calzaghe. Joe will open the world's eyes to how much Hopkins has deteriorated.

                      'Nard (what up Bringer) would have given Joe a good fight in the earlier part of the 2000's. But now, it's too late.

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