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  • kadyo's
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    #11
    Hatton didn't lose? then who was the fighter that mayweather just beat?

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    • col Blake
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      #12
      Originally posted by werewolf
      The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's the bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.






      ww
      so it was the ref who knocked Ricky the **** out was it

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        #13
        Originally posted by werewolf
        The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's the bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.






        ww
        Let's not go nuts, Hatton was having some success early because he was mixing it up, using head movement and a jab to get inside, and after the point deduction (which was bogus in my opinion, Mayweather was in trouble and turned his back to avoid punishment) he abandoned it and started just bullrushing. And he got caught.

        For me the worst indictment of the officiating was that the judging was so off base. I think it was 90-80, 90-80, 89-81 with one judge giving Hatton one round at the point of the knockout.

        Cortez was far more an influence on the fight than he should have been, there's no question. But suggesting that the fight should be called a no contest as a result isn't the right way of things.

        If I were in the habit of making excuses I could say "Floyd would never get away with using his elbows and holding like that in the UK".

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        • Pugilistic™
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          #14
          guys... you really gotta stop making excuses. i wanted hatton to win but he got beat fair and square. saying the referee was paid is shows your a bad loser.

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            #15
            Originally posted by werewolf
            The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's the bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.






            ww
            Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
            I mean, the ref let mayweather get away with dirty elbow fighting all night, but the fact is that MAYWEATHER initiated most of the clinching in that fight, which was a pretty ingenious strategy.
            Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
            I know what you mean...

            But.. It was a brilliant move on Floyd's part.. He Initated the Holds..Not Hatton.. He kept using his elbow.. Floyd was the Dirty Fighter.. But somehow Cortez was Convinced it was Hatton.. And it worked... But then everything with Floyd is smoke and Mirrors..
            I have awesome new respect for Floyd.. Not as a Boxer.. But as a confidence man.. He is GOOD... very very good..
            Originally posted by squealpiggy
            Let's not go nuts, Hatton was having some success early because he was mixing it up, using head movement and a jab to get inside, and after the point deduction (which was bogus in my opinion, Mayweather was in trouble and turned his back to avoid punishment) he abandoned it and started just bullrushing. And he got caught.

            For me the worst indictment of the officiating was that the judging was so off base. I think it was 90-80, 90-80, 89-81 with one judge giving Hatton one round at the point of the knockout.

            Cortez was far more an influence on the fight than he should have been, there's no question. But suggesting that the fight should be called a no contest as a result isn't the right way of things.

            If I were in the habit of making excuses I could say "Floyd would never get away with using his elbows and holding like that in the UK".



            What happened to no excuses? Please. Regardless of Cortez, FLOYD KNOCKED HATTON OUT. The judges, etc. are irrelevant at this point. The fight did not make it to the judges.


            Hatton DOES HOLD ENTIRELY TOO MUCH AND YOU ALL KNOW IT, NEED TO STOP DENYING IT AND JUST START ADMITTING IT!! He wanted to wrestle because that is his style. However, Cortez was not having that. This is not wrestling. Period.

            I am so tired of all of the lame, bs excuses. Hatton got KNOCKED OUT. He did not lose only on points, but he got KNOCKED OUT.



            I will say I do believe Hatton took at least 3-4 various rounds of the first rounds. I expected him too.


            Mayweather was perfect in this fight. He allowed Hatton to tire, and then knocked him out clean!!!!


            I also appreciated how loving he was with Hatton afterwards. Floyd never disliked Hatton, he wanted to sell the fight. Floyd did not like Oscar, and that was clear before and after the fight!

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            • squealpiggy
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              #16
              You know I am well aware that Hatton is criticised for his holding. But the early part of the fight was punctuated by Cortez separating the two when Floyd was doing most of the holding. I'm man enough to admit that the better fighter won, but wouldn't it give you more satisfaction in backing a winner when the referee was less of a factor?

              Hatton was facing an uphill struggle because Floyd is so good. Mayweather didn't need Cortez in his corner.

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              • Welter_Skelter
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                #17
                Originally posted by beauty
                What happened to no excuses? Please. Regardless of Cortez, FLOYD KNOCKED HATTON OUT. The judges, etc. are irrelevant at this point. The fight did not make it to the judges.


                Hatton DOES HOLD ENTIRELY TOO MUCH AND YOU ALL KNOW IT, NEED TO STOP DENYING IT AND JUST START ADMITTING IT!! He wanted to wrestle because that is his style. However, Cortez was not having that. This is not wrestling. Period.

                I am so tired of all of the lame, bs excuses. Hatton got KNOCKED OUT. He did not lose only on points, but he got KNOCKED OUT.



                I will say I do believe Hatton took at least 3-4 various rounds of the first rounds. I expected him too.


                Mayweather was perfect in this fight. He allowed Hatton to tire, and then knocked him out clean!!!!


                I also appreciated how loving he was with Hatton afterwards. Floyd never disliked Hatton, he wanted to sell the fight. Floyd did not like Oscar, and that was clear before and after the fight!

                I am not making excuses .. I am just telling it like it is... if you look closely I am saying Floyd Beat Ricky at his OWN game... A con is a con.. But I can appriceate the art of it.. Hatton did the same thing against Tszyu..

                The one thing I DIDNT expect.. was for Floyd to be the Dirty Fighter.. I dont think Hatton did either.. Come on beauty ..It was the prefect strategy..

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                • passey
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                  #18
                  No free pass on this one. PBF won by TKO.

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                  • werewolf
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                    I know what you mean...

                    But.. It was a brilliant move on Floyd's part.. He Initated the Holds..Not Hatton.. He kept using his elbow.. Floyd was the Dirty Fighter.. But somehow Cortez was Convinced it was Hatton.. And it worked... But then everything with Floyd is smoke and Mirrors..
                    I have awesome new respect for Floyd.. Not as a Boxer.. But as a confidence man.. He is GOOD... very very good..





                    I don't know if hatton's corner was protesting at all. They didn't show any between round video on Romanian tv. At one point, when hatton told the "referee" to kiss his ass (the highlight of the fight for me), I thought that the fight might end then and there and Hatton's cornermen come rushing out and a pier six brawl develop. I think that this was more than the usual fixed judges and subtle ref bias. This ref made house ref Randy Neumann look subtle by comparison.

                    The Europeans need to start their own boxing leagues and separate themselves from the gangster ABC things and the blatantly crooked don king judges and referees.






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                    • passey
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                      #20
                      If the ref "fixed" the fight, how do you explain Hatton getting blasted in the 10th round?

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