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  • #31
    when did he said that??

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    • #32
      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View Post
      Mozza,

      Openly racist people have run for political office here in the states.
      We have racist political parties in the UK but we also have race hate laws which make it an offence to say certain things which are likely to increase racial tensions.

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      • #33
        ..................

        Originally posted by pesticid View Post
        Yo,

        What does Calzaghe has to do with that? Has his grandad enslaved Bernard's grandad. Have any of their ancestors even come to close proximity.

        Btw, the Spanish from Spain were ****** for what I believe is 8 centuries. under the Mores. That's what their tribe was called anyway, and they were a black tribe. The romans have enslaved many nations of different colours.

        Calzone is white..........

        so he's gotta go to...in a race war of course.......lmaooooooooooo

        The moors took ****** yes...but they were in a power struggle ... with the europeans and the arabs.......

        blacks werent in a power struggle...with the USA.........

        romans are caucasion..........

        there are only 3 categories

        caucasion...

        asian.......

        negro.......

        So romans are to blame as well...now i hate all romans...see how u propelled me...

        ma nicca......................lmaooooooooooooo

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        • #34
          thing is racism can only exist one way..........

          white supremacists ........... started the idea of racism.........
          Wrong and wrong.

          when blacks have ugly opinions about whites.....

          its because of the built up hate over the course of the history between them......
          Wrong.

          lets take color out of it..........

          you have person A....

          you have person B....

          person A en****** person B's ancestors....

          Person A kills person B's ancestors

          person A tries to deny equal rights for person B..........

          Than person A comes to person B and says ...love me......lets have peace?

          if ur person B what do you do............?
          OK I have to address this in two parts. Firstly the history is way off base. The Atlantic slave trade wasn't as simple as "white people stealing black people". In fact the slave trade took advantage of inter-tribal warfare that was taking place in West Africa, in which (black) tribes would conduct raids on other (black) tribes and commit murder and take ******. Slavery existed in Africa for millenia, long before whites sailed the Atlantic (and still exists today). Dutch traders (and later British, French, American and sundry other Europeans) took advantage of this already existing slave trade and traded ****** with such items as rum, metal and guns. Although the simplistic view is that slavery was something done to black people by white people, in reality slavery is something that has been practised by every level of society whenever one group has been more powerful than another.

          The other problem I have with your statement is that it isn;t logical. Let's take colour out of this:

          Person A en****** person B. Berson A has children, as does person B. Let's call them A2 and B2. A2 has not enslaved B2 because doing so would be illegal. In fact A2 has nothing to do with B2. Let's say that B2 has kids and B3 has kids and B4 has kids, now four generations seperate the family line of A and B. Does B5 have any cause for resentment against A5? These people have not met. Their only connection is a crime committed by A5's great great great grandfather.

          Of course there are economic considerations and things aren't as simple as the scenario above, but that's far more accurate a representation of how things happened than your attempt.

          In short slavery is wrong, racism is wrong, and everybody should stop being ****s to each other.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY View Post
            A fight nearly broke out between Bernard Hopkins and Joe Calzaghe today during their first face-to-face meeting at the MGM Grand Media Center in Las Vegas. "I would never let a white boy beat me," Hopkins told reporters. "You can print that. I would never lose to a white person."

            WOW, I wonder if Calzaghe said he would "never lose to a black boy," would that be a problem for Bernard??

            I will say it straight out.

            Black people(some black people in this country) will scream racism at the slightest hint of impropriety. They use it like a crutch.

            Someone says "get off welfare and get a job" and black people scream racism.

            Someone says" why should black people be allowed to score lower on tests and still be accepted-isn't that like saying you are less than the average human being?" Simone screams racism.


            Someone says " Why is black on black murder rate the highest in the country and black education a dismal failure?" and someone screams racist.

            Someone ask " why does the black athlete and rapper, and gangster get all the admiration of your young people, while great minds are uncle toms and frowned upon?" someone screams racist!


            Black people can call themselves ******s, but the minute someone else does it's racist.

            Black people call white people Honkey and crackers and yet somehow that isn't racist at all.


            The sad thing is many in the black community are living a lie. They have become ****** to worthlessness and have no dreams other than to get as much as they can for free(lotta people doing that period).


            I don't hate Black people. I just don't really give a **** about em, but hey, i really don't give a **** about anyone but my family anyway so it's not a personnel thing.


            The fact is that Black people, Brown people, red, and yellow people are all prejudice when you get right down to it. We all think less of the other races.

            The reason the white man catches so much **** is simple really.

            On this planet, the white man is THNIC, And the rest of the world takes every opportunity they can to knock us down a peg, thats fine, because given a choice of a free living and no responsibility- i personally would always choose to be the master of my own destiny.


            Bernard Hopkins is no worse than anyone else. The only thing he is guilty of is speaking the truth of how he feels- it's the rest of us that are crying like bitches because somehow we think the world should play by a certain set of rules!


            Tell that to the billions that have died at the hands of REAL racists!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Easton Assassin View Post
              I will say it straight out.

              Black people(some black people in this country) will scream racism at the slightest hint of impropriety. They use it like a crutch.

              Someone says "get off welfare and get a job" and black people scream racism.
              Wtf are they supposed to scream when someone says some stereotypical bull**** like that? You tell an individual that who you know doesn't need to be in the situation and is capable of producing their own income. Not an entire ethnicity, it is ******. How is that like calling someone a "white boy"..

              Someone says" why should black people be allowed to score lower on tests and still be accepted-isn't that like saying you are less than the average human being?" Simone screams racism.
              Lower on what tests? Culturally biased tests set up in the exact same way no matter the educational resources available to each community built on a recognized legacy of illiteracy rooted in segregation? This is recognized federal law. To disagree with it isn't necessarily racist, but putting emphasis on it as part of a crappy argument is. It's a convenient window of opportunity to express you ill intent and vent about what you're annoyed with. But no one cares about hate mongers.


              Someone says " Why is black on black murder rate the highest in the country and black education a dismal failure?" and someone screams racist.
              Racism actually does have a lot to do with the disparity in education and how much of a government priority it is in the inner city, including the inheritance of a rotten disposition, and a lack of financial means to get into college. This has been confirmed as it's a cultural issue with African Americans that don't reflect on African immigrants not part of the American legacy.


              Do African immigrants make the smartest Americans? The question may sound outlandish, but if you were judging by statistics alone, you could find plenty of evidence to back it up.

              In a side-by-side comparison of 2000 census data by sociologist John R. Logan at the Mumford Center, State University of New York at Albany, black immigrants from Africa average the highest educational attainment of any population group in the country, including whites and Asians.

              For example, 43.8 percent of African immigrants had achieved a college degree, compared to 42.5 of Asian Americans, 28.9 percent for immigrants from Europe, Russia and Canada, and 23.1 percent of the U.S. population as a whole.


              http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...invisible.html

              The intra-ethnic homicide rate has more to do with everyone trying to get out of the same ****ty place at the same time, like crabs in a bucket. It's an observable cycle not necessarily attributable to anyone in particular, but is an inherited problem. What's racist is to blatantly ignore the sociological explanation for it, which is well defined in current researched and has been covered extensively.
              Someone ask " why does the black athlete and rapper, and gangster get all the admiration of your young people, while great minds are uncle toms and frowned upon?" someone screams racist!
              I've never heard anyone scream racism for that and this is frowned upon in the black community, stop grasping at straws. Whites kids have to same problem with violent movies, rock n roll, and degenerate pop culture.



              Black people can call themselves ******s, but the minute someone else does it's racist.
              Black people have a right to own certain words as a part of their culture. They have a right to be inclusive if they're to embrace an identity and I don't see why anyone would not respect someone's wishes when they express that certain words used by certain people are offensive. If it makes black people feel better to take the umph off of it by using it as a term of endearment, who are you to criticize unless you're jealous that you can't go around calling people *****s.?

              Black people call white people Honkey and crackers and yet somehow that isn't racist at all.
              It is racist.. What are you talking about?

              The sad thing is many in the black community are living a lie. They have become ****** to worthlessness and have no dreams other than to get as much as they can for free(lotta people doing that period).
              Many white people suffer from delusions of grander, in they they don't accept responsibility for bring misery to every part of the world they set foot in while pretending that anybody external to their own appreciate their presence or need their dreams to be defined by them. The supposed lie wasn't created by any said black people since none of them came to America lying to anybody. Your vile ancestors lied to everybody else while raping and killing them.


              I don't hate Black people.
              Yes you do, hahahaha! It's obvious, Easton, which is why you're intimidated by me and others like me. I've noticed that the fact that I'm a lot more intelligent than you are frightens you. You are among the lower end of your kind.

              I just don't really give a **** about em, but hey, i really don't give a **** about anyone but my family anyway so it's not a personnel thing.
              Cop-out.. Anyways..

              Why do racists have low IQs?


              The fact is that Black people, Brown people, red, and yellow people are all prejudice when you get right down to it. We all think less of the other races.
              Their prejudice (at least as it is culturally and universally applied) is merely a defense mechanism. White supremacy = modern day racist utilizing European concepts of race.

              The reason the white man catches so much **** is simple really.
              Because he's corrupt. At least the one you're referring to.

              On this planet, the white man is THNIC, And the rest of the world takes every opportunity they can to knock us down a peg, thats fine, because given a choice of a free living and no responsibility- i personally would always choose to be the master of my own destiny.
              This makes no sense. The power of the most of the world is controled by a FEW white men, not the majority and not you. The rest are lowly people trying to compete to survive. This is what I mean by delusions of grander, it is hilarious.

              Bernard Hopkins is no worse than anyone else. The only thing he is guilty of is speaking the truth of how he feels- it's the rest of us that are crying like bitches because somehow we think the world should play by a certain set of rules!
              Your diatribe had nothing to do with Bernard Hopkins, it was about black people. You've merely used Hopkins as an excuse to vent, which is okay, but it has exposed how truly ignorant you are, even when you try to be serious.

              Tell that to the billions that have died at the hands of REAL racists!
              Real racists like you? Geeze, some of the white folk who post here are crybabies. And they call "us" sensitive.

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              • #37
                Does anyone wonder if "black boy" and "white boy" carry the same historical weight?

                Anyone think they do?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View Post
                  It would be a problem for ME. Because it wouldn't be true. Roy would have destroyed Joe.
                  That's the only problem you would have with it? Really? Wow...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by FISTIC ART View Post
                    sitai its always been like that though ...... thats nothing new........

                    thing is racism can only exist one way..........

                    white supremacists ........... started the idea of racism.........

                    when blacks have ugly opinions about whites.....

                    its because of the built up hate over the course of the history between them......

                    lets take color out of it..........

                    you have person A....

                    you have person B....

                    person A en****** person B's ancestors....

                    Person A kills person B's ancestors

                    person A tries to deny equal rights for person B..........

                    Than person A comes to person B and says ...love me......lets have peace?

                    if ur person B what do you do............?
                    You are so wrong its hard to describe...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by sonofisis
                      Wtf are they supposed to scream when someone says some stereotypical bull**** like that? You tell an individual that who you know doesn't need to be in the situation and is capable of producing their own income. Not an entire ethnicity, it is ******. How is that like calling someone a "white boy"..



                      Lower on what tests? Culturally biased tests set up in the exact same way no matter the educational resources available to each community built on a recognized legacy of illiteracy rooted in segregation? This is recognized federal law. To disagree with it isn't necessarily racist, but putting emphasis on it as part of a crappy argument is. It's a convenient window of opportunity to express you ill intent and vent about what you're annoyed with. But no one cares about hate mongers.




                      Racism actually does have a lot to do with the disparity in education and how much of a government priority it is in the inner city, including the inheritance of a rotten disposition, and a lack of financial means to get into college. This has been confirmed as it's a cultural issue with African Americans that don't reflect on African immigrants not part of the American legacy.


                      Do African immigrants make the smartest Americans? The question may sound outlandish, but if you were judging by statistics alone, you could find plenty of evidence to back it up.

                      In a side-by-side comparison of 2000 census data by sociologist John R. Logan at the Mumford Center, State University of New York at Albany, black immigrants from Africa average the highest educational attainment of any population group in the country, including whites and Asians.

                      For example, 43.8 percent of African immigrants had achieved a college degree, compared to 42.5 of Asian Americans, 28.9 percent for immigrants from Europe, Russia and Canada, and 23.1 percent of the U.S. population as a whole.


                      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...invisible.html

                      The intra-ethnic homicide rate has more to do with everyone trying to get out of the same ****ty place at the same time, like crabs in a bucket. It's an observable cycle not necessarily attributable to anyone in particular, but is an inherited problem. What's racist is to blatantly ignore the sociological explanation for it, which is well defined in current researched and has been covered extensively.


                      I've never heard anyone scream racism for that and this is frowned upon in the black community, stop grasping at straws. Whites kids have to same problem with violent movies, rock n roll, and degenerate pop culture.





                      Black people have a right to own certain words as a part of their culture. They have a right to be inclusive if they're to embrace an identity and I don't see why anyone would not respect someone's wishes when they express that certain words used by certain people are offensive. If it makes black people feel better to take the umph off of it by using it as a term of endearment, who are you to criticize unless you're jealous that you can't go around calling people *****s.?



                      It is racist.. What are you talking about?



                      Many white people suffer from delusions of grander, in they they don't accept responsibility for bring misery to every part of the world they set foot in while pretending that anybody external to their own appreciate their presence or need their dreams to be defined by them. The supposed lie wasn't created by any said black people since none of them came to America lying to anybody. Your vile ancestors lied to everybody else while raping and killing them.




                      Yes you do, hahahaha! It's obvious, Easton, which is why you're intimidated by me and others like me. I've noticed that the fact that I'm a lot more intelligent than you are frightens you. You are among the lower end of your kind.



                      Cop-out.. Anyways..

                      Why do racists have low IQs?




                      Their prejudice (at least as it is culturally and universally applied) is merely a defense mechanism. White supremacy = modern day racist utilizing European concepts of race.



                      Because he's corrupt. At least the one you're referring to.


                      This makes no sense. The power of the most of the world is controled by a FEW white men, not the majority and not you. The rest are lowly people trying to compete to survive. This is what I mean by delusions of grander, it is hilarious.


                      Your diatribe had nothing to do with Bernard Hopkins, it was about black people. You've merely used Hopkins as an excuse to vent, which is okay, but it has exposed how truly ignorant you are, even when you try to be serious.


                      Real racists like you? Geeze, some of the white folk who post here are crybabies. And they call "us" sensitive.

                      Racial threads pretty much suck.

                      But, sonofsis, you cannot deny that there is a double standard (ie..Hopkins can make a racist statement without condemnation from the media and Calzaghe surely cannot). You don't deny that. You in fact think white people deserve it. That's a fairly racist thing in itself. I think playing the race card by either side is ignorant, inflamatory, and appeals to the basest nature of people on both sides of the spectrum.

                      In short...sonofsis, why call other people racist when you appear to be a racist yourself?

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