The WW's vs Floyd Debates Are Jokes

[C'MONMANG']

WBO welterweight champ Antonio Margarito (33-4) retained his title against Joshua Clottey (30-1) via unanimous decision ... but it wasn't easy. Clottey's punches were far more accurate and effective through four rounds as Margarito looked rusty and vulnerable. Clottey, however, apparently broke his left hand in the fourth round and was unable to maintain his advantage. Margarito gradually took control of the fight but never dominated, as Clottey remained competitive until the final bell. All three judges gave the fight to Margarito: 118-109, 116-112 and 116-112. Margarito's next bout may be a mandatory defense against rising star Paul Williams (32-0), who stands over six-feet tall and - if Margarito avoids him - will inherit Margarito's place as the welterweight none of the big names wants to face.

http://boxing.about.com/b/2006/12/03/cotto-wins-wba-welter-belt-margarito-retains-wbo-version.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2006-12-03-cotto-margarito-welterweights_x.htm

KNUCKLE....

and fighters have broken thier hands before and still came away with the win, if infact that were supppose to win

[THE REED]

Why you have to talk like a *****. Thats why I dont come on these boards because I be wanting to kill a Mother ****a. If you dont agree with what I say then fine but dont come at me with that gay talk because I dont play that ****. When Im in the street guys dont come at me like that because they know I dont even joke around with that kind of ****. Be a man and respect me as one. If you dont agree with my points then you have a right to do that but respect me as a man and dont be talking about **** and all that ****. Thats the problem with little girls on these boards. The 1st time they disagree they always call the other guy gay or make gay comments. If your going to say that to me then dont respond to my ****in post because I dont want to hear that ***** ****.

That goes for everyone on here. Stop doing that ****, not just to me but to anyone because its kiddie stuff. Be a Man

yeah i have to agree

[-Antonio-]

Your missing the point. The point is that Collazo is rated right where he's supposed to be but other guys who are similar to him are rated like there the best fighters ever and its not true. Theyve done nothing for people to be acting like they are the end all to be all.

Not only that but what makes Cotto the guy. Floyd beat both Zab & Baldy when they had the titles and beat Oscar at 154 when he didnt have the title but everyone said he was the best. Why does Cotto have any more right to the title then Williams or the other guys? Is it just because he beat Shane? Shane's good but he wouldnt have been favored against Margarito or Williams and I would never had picked him over Clottey. This is all Im saying. Those guys are getting these super high rankings for not doing much. Ill give Cotto his credit for atleast doing something but its still not better then what Floyd has done but thats what everyone thinks. Those other guys arent even close to doing what Floyd has done but its a myth that theyve done more at that weight and they havent

I dont argue the fact that Floyd is the guy. I only argue the fact that you say one thing for one argument then flip the script when it comes to Joy Sinclair. I could look up threads where you do this, but I'm too lazy.

[sonofisis]

no ****... i know that idiot.... that was 6 months ago.. u really think floyd shrunk all the muscle that much?

You are ridiculous. He lost two pounds in one day after the weigh in (as opposed to blowing up and gaining weight like all other fighters). This is an obvious sign that that wasn't Floyd's natural weight since he can't carry it and train at the same time. He weighed 148 on fight night. Should he have come in at 140 for a 154 title bout and are you arguing that Floyd can't EASILY make 140? My god, the nonsense on this site is sooo prevalent

ur crazy... hatton is smaller than floyd in every way... he has less muscle.. hes shorter... his arms are shorter.. hes smaller ****ing point blank period

Hatton is a lot beefier than Floyd, what the hell? Floyd is sleek and slim with a longer reach. He has a longer reach as most black fighters do because of his ancestry, he's tropically adapted. That type of body is naturally sleek in order to alleviate heat, while Hatton is stocky, as many Europeans are to conserve it. He is naturally bigger and they both embody this pattern. You don't know a lot obviously and will never make sense when you only base your argument on two pictures but not individual history and even anatomy.

At the end of the day, Floyd spent most of his career at 130/135, Hatton at 140. Use common sense and do that math. They are both GROWN MEN.

[Jim Jeffries]

This is before the De La Hoya fight at 154, genius, and he still couldn't get that high. He weighed in at 150, Hatton blows up to 180 between fights. We don't need any pre-selected photos to know that!

Floyd weighed 148 fight night vs DLH genius. You really think he has shrunk since then? What does Hatton getting FAT between fights have to do with anything?

[DLT]

About the weight you have to remember that it was the weigh-in. Oscar had it in the contract that Floyd had to be at atleast 150 for the weigh-in. He actually lost weight and came into the ring at 148. When I watched the Oscar fight I said the samething. I said that Floyd looked bigger then Id ever seen him but then I rewatched it like a few days ago and he still didnt look that big. If you watch the fight vs Baldy then he looks like a flat chested scrwany little boy who clearly doesnt belong at WW. I totally disagree with the people who say that he's bigger. None of you thought he was bigger then Hatton at 140 so why do you believe so now. Do you think Floyd got that much bigger? He hasnt. He just moved up to chase Oscar and now he stays up because thats where the bigger fights are

[beauty]

Why you have to talk like a *****. Thats why I dont come on these boards because I be wanting to kill a Mother ****a. If you dont agree with what I say then fine but dont come at me with that gay talk because I dont play that ****. When Im in the street guys dont come at me like that because they know I dont even joke around with that kind of ****. Be a man and respect me as one. If you dont agree with my points then you have a right to do that but respect me as a man and dont be talking about **** and all that ****. Thats the problem with little girls on these boards. The 1st time they disagree they always call the other guy gay or make gay comments. If your going to say that to me then dont respond to my ****in post because I dont want to hear that ***** ****.

That goes for everyone on here. Stop doing that ****, not just to me but to anyone because its kiddie stuff. Be a Man

Good post.

[C'MONMANG']

You are ridiculous. He lost two pounds in one day after the weigh in (as opposed to blowing up and gaining weight like all other fighters). This is an obvious sign that thiat wasn't Floyd's natural weight since he can't carry it and train and the same time. He weighed 148 on fight night. Should he have come in at 140 for a 154 title bout and are you arguing that Floyd can't EASILY make 140? My god, the nonsense on this site is sooo prevalent


Hatton is a lot beefier than Floyd, what the hell? Floyd is sleek and slim with a longer reach. He has a longer reach as most black fighters do because of his ancestry, he's tropically adapted. That type of body is naturally sleek in order to alleviate heat, while Hatton is stocky, as many Europeans are to conserve it. He is naturally bigger and they both embody this pattern. You don't know a lot obviously and will never make sense when you only base your argument on two pictures but not individual history and even anatomy.

gee, then why not fight for the LINEAL 140 championship? DUH DUH DUH

[Jim Jeffries]

Mosley got Collazo coming off a recent loss. He got an out of shape Hatton's leftovers.

Well a lot of people thought Hatton lost to Collazo. What is Floyd doing fighting Collazo's leftovers?

[THE REED]

You are ridiculous. He lost two pounds in one day after the weigh in (as opposed to blowing up and gaining weight like all other fighters). This is an obvious sign that that wasn't Floyd's natural weight since he can't carry it and train at the same time. He weighed 148 on fight night. Should he have come in at 140 for a 154 title bout and are you arguing that Floyd can't EASILY make 140? My god, the nonsense on this site is sooo prevalent


Hatton is a lot beefier than Floyd, what the hell? Floyd is sleek and slim with a longer reach. He has a longer reach as most black fighters do because of his ancestry, he's tropically adapted. That type of body is naturally sleek in order to alleviate heat, while Hatton is stocky, as many Europeans are to conserve it. He is naturally bigger and they both embody this pattern. You don't know a lot obviously and will never make sense when you only base your argument on two pictures but not individual history and even anatomy.

At the end of the day, Floyd spent most of his career at 130/135, Hatton at 140. Use common sense and do that math. They are both GROWN MEN.

your the idiot honestly.. your sitting here talking to me about ancestry lol.. i dont care if ricky hatton blows up to 300 pounds.... come fight night... hes 140 - 147... and all the fat is gone... and his muscle is thin... rickys frame is smaller come fight night.. and floyds isnt.. im talking fight night... stop babbling about tropical people and what ricky does between fights... that doesnt matter... floyd is taller and has more muscle, he is the bigger man, he just is