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  • #51
    Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7 View Post
    They even say that in some of his fights in the crowds in 85'. Screaming out the next heavyweight,and the next heavyweight champion. Crazy ****.
    Crazy and true if I remember correctly. He re-ignited the sport and since he and Lewis have retired and Holy is past it the lights have gone out. Wlad is good IMO but not great, maybe he will prove me wrong but I can't see it especially when he does not have anybody to rival him and make him great.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Azteca View Post
      That is some beast ****.

      I dont have respect for most of those stocky men in the weight room though. Most have chicken legs and are not very athletic.

      You being an obvious exception cause I've seen you in the ring.

      how was wrestling training, btw? I am thinking of joining wrestling for college in a few months. No experience but I figure if someone teaches me I can at least make the team...

      Am I dumb thinking that? I know wrestlings a science but strength DOES play a large factor, does it not?
      Strength plays a big role in wrestling,but its the technique that gets you the win. Pretty opposite from boxing. Also wrestling was grueling and practice and losing weight every week for tournaments.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Azteca View Post
        you're 55 too. THat is pretty good considering you were lifting in what, the 70s?
        Naw haha Im only 23.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7 View Post
          Strength plays a big role in wrestling,but its the technique that gets you the win. Pretty opposite from boxing. Also wrestling was grueling and practice and losing weight every week for tournaments.
          Wrestling is not big here at all so I think I would do decent...

          but yeah...weight week sounds ****ty. I watched ap rogram on weight cutting for wrestling. These guys are beasts at the wiegh in. This one guy was fighting at 130 and he looked about 170.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by hurricane72 View Post
            Crazy and true if I remember correctly. He re-ignited the sport and since he and Lewis have retired and Holy is past it the lights have gone out. Wlad is good IMO but not great, maybe he will prove me wrong but I can't see it especially when he does not have anybody to rival him and make him great.
            He needs some good opposition or some devastating knockouts that are quick to be considered great. Hopefully his time will come.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Azteca View Post
              Wrestling is not big here at all so I think I would do decent...

              but yeah...weight week sounds ****ty. I watched ap rogram on weight cutting for wrestling. These guys are beasts at the wiegh in. This one guy was fighting at 130 and he looked about 170.
              Yeah,wrestlers seem to have a big build for there lower weight they're fighting at.Especiall 130-172

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              • #57
                Mostly upperbody. THey have legs like ****in' basketball players.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Azteca View Post
                  Mostly upperbody. THey have legs like ****in' basketball players.
                  Check out the wrestler Cael Sanderson. He's a wrestling legend. Dio's has him in his sig.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7 View Post
                    He needs some good opposition or some devastating knockouts that are quick to be considered great. Hopefully his time will come.
                    I really like the guy and honestly have nothing against him. But I just don't see anything great about him. He is not a bad boxer better under Steward like Lewis was and has some power but IMO Lennox was far greater in every department. Better boxer, better technique, harder puncher, better chin.
                    Maybe Wlad beat Lewis in the speed department but that's an older Lewis. The one who fought Ruddock while being a clumsy fighter was faster. For me a young or old version would beat Wlad. Apart from Wlad getting lucky like McCall or Rahman I couldn't see him winning and if he did Lewis would make amends in a rematch and rubber match.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by hurricane72 View Post
                      I really like the guy and honestly have nothing against him. But I just don't see anything great about him. He is not a bad boxer better under Steward like Lewis was and has some power but IMO Lennox was far greater in every department. Better boxer, better technique, harder puncher, better chin.
                      Maybe Wlad beat Lewis in the speed department but that's an older Lewis. The one who fought Ruddock while being a clumsy fighter was faster. For me a young or old version would beat Wlad. Apart from Wlad getting lucky like McCall or Rahman I couldn't see him winning and if he did Lewis would make amends in a rematch and rubber match.
                      Lewis was also a adapter in the ring. When I saw Wlad face Chris Byrd he was confused for a few rounds.

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