Mayweather vs. Hatton Thread Part 2

[ThaHorseman]

You and other Floyd fans have said it yourselfs.. who is Hatton, who has he fought, he is a C class fighter. I like Hatton as a person but as an athlete I dont think hes that great. I laught at y'all who admit that a fighter is **** but then when he beats him its a great ****ing victory.

Beating Hatton proves more than beating any other fighter 154 or lower at the moment with the exception of Cotto. And that wasn't the case until he handled Mosley. So really what point are you trying to make?

And you're right, most Floyd fans are going to say that Hatton is overrated, just like you keep trying to imply Floyd is overrated. Fans of one fighter are going to talk **** about other fighters. Thats just the way it is. You do the same damn thing.

[Sin City]

Cotto is the only one that really "deserves" to fight Mayweather (although I'd love to see floyd fight them all, but that wont happen).

Personally I do think Mayweather/Cotto will happen in '08. Floyd follows the money and I think Cotto is one of the few fighters left that can be a potential huge fight (as far as $$$ goes).

Until he fights Cotto I don't see Gatti or Baldomir as accomplishments in the Welter division, DLH I give him mad props for but he hasn't done much outside of 130. 130 he was great, but outside of that he isn't doing ****.

[sonofisis]

body fat and natural weight are two totally different things you loser.

1) There's no such thing technically as a "natural weight". There's a weight range that is average for one's height, and then there's the outliners. There's an actual formula behind it and everything. Ricky is naturally more bulky though which makes him naturally more hefty (bigger). Mayweather's frame is designed for the lower weight classes.

2) You implied that Ricky had to put on weight to get to Welter Weight, when he's losing weight so please, saving face will do you no justice. Your incompetence was exposed.

[SkillspayBills]

I got to them all already.

[steptwome]

The formula for Mayweather = Karim Mayfield

Karim Mayfield
By Raymond Markarian

Being one of the hottest prospects to come out of Northern California has its advantages. For Karim “The Hard Hitta” Mayfield, that advantage led him straight to Manchester, England. Karim Mayfield held the privilege of helping Ricky Hatton prepare for his upcoming showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on December 8th.
Karim grew up in the Fillmore section of the San Francisco Bay Area. He currently trains at the Straight Forward Boxing Club, the hottest gym in the Bay Area, located in the heart of downtown San Francisco. Like most fighters before him, Karim’s upbringing was rough: “I have seen a lot of death and poverty. But my family and closest friends keep me inspired to keep going.”
And keep going he has. Like the Road Runner. After only five years of boxing training, a Golden Gloves championship, and an impressive 40-5 amateur record on his resume, “The Hard Hitta” has built a 5-0 record with all five wins coming by way of knockout. One of his victims was a man named Alejo Sepulveda who was actually considered Roger Mayweather’s hottest prospect until he met the quick hands of “The Hard Hitta” and lost via first round knockout.
“Growing up, I could have easily gone down the wrong road," he said. "But I have been lucky my family has always been there for me. I have a wife and three beautiful children. My grandmother, parents and my older brother have all been my greatest inspirations.
"My older brother beat me up a lot as a kid. He actually taught me how to box. We fought many times growing up I remember trying to attack him with my head down throwing roundhouse punches. He used to hit me with the jab every time. He would always tell me to keep my head up when I punch. Fighting with my older brother helped me become a better boxer.”
Ricky Hatton has taken notice. “You can make some good things happen man. You have an awkward style. It is hard to mess with,” he told Mayfield.
In his defense, Mayfield pointed out the positive reinforcement received from the Hatton statement. “Hatton says I have an awkward style. But to me, awkward means unique. I have a unique style. I come in throwing punches from all angles. If I had to compare it to any fighters it would be Mike Tyson, Prince Naseem Hamed, and Roy Jones Jr.”
When Karim’s trainer Ben Batista received a call from Robert Diaz, the Golden Boy Promotions matchmaker in request of Mayfield’s services in the Hatton camp, they were both excited and willing to take the opportunity. “I wanted to see if I could compete at the highest level,” Karim said. “I also wanted to train with one of the best fighters out there, Ricky Hatton. It was a tremendous honor.”
The one week adventure started with a near **** but ended in a boxing culture shock. “My first day in Manchester, I almost got hit by a car crossing the street," Mayfield said. "I completely forgot that traffic in Europe goes in the opposite direction.”
Unlike Floyd Mayweather Jr. who is notorious for treating his sparring partners like trash, Ricky Hatton did everything he could to make Karim Mayfield’s visit as comfortable as possible.
“I felt like the Prince of England,” Karim said. “Hatton’s people treated us like royalty. They flew us out from San Francisco business class and took care of everything. They took care of the hotel, taxi, food, and also got us box seats to a Manchester soccer game. The Manchester soccer team signed their team flag and gave it to us. It was a great experience. Everyone there was really great.”
Batista agreed but was also impressed with the boxing culture in England. “It was huge, you know," the trainer said. "Training with a world champion and being a part of the HBO 24/7 thing. Being around the Golden Boy people was a mega experience. They treated us royally in England. But one thing I realized about Manchester is that boxing is mega hot out there. In Manchester, they stay true to boxing. They have boxing in the school curriculum. I mean it is crazy. The top sport there is soccer then its boxing.”
Batista continued with his assessment of the Manchester fight scene. “There are fighting gyms everywhere. It is a good feeling to know that I could pick up a newspaper and read about boxing. In England you can go into a super market and you will see Everlast clothes for sale and Lonsdale clothes for sale. In the United States, it is a shock to find any sports store carrying boxing gear. In America, you see wresting shoes before you see boxing shoes. Boxing is a culture in Manchester.”
Aside from the royal treatment Ricky Hatton conveyed to them and the obvious difference in boxing popularity between England and the United States, both Ben Batista and Karim Mayfield were impressed with Ricky Hatton as a person and a fighter. “Ricky is a nice dude,” Batista said. “Real humble, but he is a beast in a ring. If he gets a hold of Floyd in that fight it is going to be a long day.”
“Seeing how boxing is in England inspires me even more as a trainer. I want to go global with this thing (SFC)," said Batista, who is the owner and head trainer at the Straight Forward Boxing Club in San Francisco, Ca. His goal is to instill the sweet science of boxing into the minds of the inner city youth. Karim Mayfield and Ashante Jordan, who recently signed with Golden Boy, are his greatest prospects. “Karim Mayfield and Ashante Jordan are knocking down doors for San Francisco fighters. They are helping boxers in the Bay Area become recognized,” he said.
Karim is not only the SFC’s hottest talent but he is also a contributing trainer. “I want all the kids from Fillmore and the rest of the Bay Area to know that I am willing to help," he said. "If anyone wants to come by the gym and train I am here for you.”

[sonofisis]

Until he fights Cotto I don't see Gatti or Baldomir as accomplishments in the Welter division, DLH I give him mad props for but he hasn't done much outside of 130. 130 he was great, but outside of that he isn't doing ****.

He beat Castillo at 135, among a few top ranked contenders. You're the only one devaluing his accomplishments at 135. Even the haters acknowledge 135. Also, he won the Welter Weight title before Cotto was even thought of.

[Parody]

Sky Sports give their thoughts on Mayweather-Hatton

skysports.com: Gentlemen, if there is one factor that gives Floyd Mayweather the edge over Ricky Hatton, what do you think it is?


JONNY NELSON: It has to be his speed, nothing else. He is that quick he is capable of getting two, three or even four shots off as Ricky comes in. Initially Ricky Hatton is mentally a very strong fighter, but if you keep getting hit before you can get your own shots off and then you are missing with those shots, it will get to you no matter who you are. If you are constantly being hit, your confidence starts to waver and you don't relax when you throw your shots, you lose your speed and accuracy in desperation. Basically you become ragged and Ricky cannot afford that. We say Mayweather has not been in all the situations that Ricky has and it's true, but Ricky has never faced anyone as quick as Floyd. Not even close.



JIM WATT: Just because he is an exceptional talent. He's not everybody's favourite fighter and he's certainly not mine, but his talent, his technique, his reflexes are just out of this world. He's always in great shape as well, so even if there is a danger of under-estimating Ricky Hatton the fighter, physically Floyd will be at his peak. He's so precise with his punches as well, I just have a nagging thought that that he might be just be too good for Ricky Hatton, no matter what happens. Is Floyd as good as he thinks he is and tells us he is? I don't know, but if he is, it could be a long night.


GLENN MCRORY: Everyone rightly goes on about his skills, but it's his cunning that worries me. This is one smart kid. They don't call him the Pretty Boy just because he's handsome, he's too smart to get his face smashed in. You don't just outsmart Oscar de la Hoya by accident and it does worry me that whatever Ricky Hatton will come up with, Floyd will negate. He can work a fight out and he knows what he's got to do to win it. If you'd seen Joan Guzman fight Humberto Soto his trainer told him after seven rounds, that he had done enough and just to box through the rest of it and stay out of trouble. That trainer was none other than Floyd Mayweather Senior. He's not involved but that tells you the way the family thinks.


NICKY PIPER: Floyd Mayweather has tremendous movement and hand speed. He is so fit as well. Hatton can really dominate some opponents with his superior fitness but Mayweather is just as fit. He will be there for 12 round and will be evasive for 12 rounds. He will keep peppering Hatton with lots and lots of shots.

[Duttybadman]

I think most of them know ricky is gonna get hurt
Junior witter as well believes Mayweather is gonna spank Hatton..

A lot compare it to the Kostya Tyszu fight but its a totally different fight

Kostya was at the end of the road when he fought Hatton
Floyd is on top of his game right now...

[Parody]

I think most of them know ricky is gonna get hurt
Junior witter as well believes Mayweather is gonna spank Hatton..

A lot compare it to the Kostya Tyszu fight but its a totally different fight

Kostya was at the end of the road when he fought Hatton
Floyd is on top of his game right now...

Witter although a Hatton Rival is cheering for Hatton to win, but he says he thinks floyd will win comfortably.

[Sin City]

He beat Castillo at 135, among a few top ranked contenders. You're the only one devaluing his accomplishments at 135. Even the haters acknowledge 135. Also, he won the Welter Weight title before Cotto was even thought of.

My bad I thought Castillo was @ 130, which he won against once.