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    Gran Campeon
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    #21
    I disagree, Its been too many years Marquez is not the same fighter he used to be. He is still really good don't get me wrong but he isn't as fast or powerful as he once was. He has certainly lost a step and even Nacho admit it.

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    • flem1
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      #22
      I also noticed in Marquez's recent fights that he getting more prone to eating straight lefts...

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      • whirlwind
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        #23
        Originally posted by -Hyperion-
        i think nacho has a point becuase pacquiao's original style is what defined him, he was a storm...and now that he has learned other things, he has lost some of that fire that made him manny pacquiao, and i think thats what's gonna come as a disadvantage on fight night.....becauselets face it, pac hasnt looked as good as in the first barrera fight in years(shot morales aside)...not even with jorge solis and an older barrera...
        To be honest, what also make you think that JMM last few fights look good than Pac last fights? The lost to Chris John, not able to avenge it? The busted face even though he won on his last opponents? or his knockdown against Barrera who simply i thought Barrera won those fight with slim margin.
        Last edited by whirlwind; 11-30-2007, 08:53 PM.

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        • moy22487
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          #24
          pacman went threw a marco like transformation, but i dont think manny will make the transformation from brawler to skilled fighter like marco. pacmans best shot is to try to go at jmm with his speed and try to end it early, if he tries to outskill jmm easy fight for jmm

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          • -Hyperion-
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            #25
            Originally posted by whirlwind
            To be honest, what also make you think that JMM last few fights look good than Pac last fights? The lost to Chris John, not able to avenge it? The busted face even though he won on his last opponents? or his knockdown against Barrera who simply i thought Barrera won those fight with slim margin.

            yeah i wont even bother to reply after that...

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            • kadyo's
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              #26
              Marquez has become more aggressive in his recent fights which I think favors pac and we also saw how juarez was able to land some clean shots. Just imagine pac landing those clean shots. And yes, juarez is predictable.

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              • kadyo's
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                #27
                Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                yeah i wont even bother to reply after that...
                but you just did. Nice sig dude.

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                • -Hyperion-
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kadyo
                  but you just did. Nice sig dude.
                  i meant to say reply further

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                  • PrtyBoyDlicious
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                    According to Freddie Roach, Nacho Beristain said that by making Pacquiao a better fighter, he is now a lot more predictable and thats why Marquez is gonna beat him easier this time...


                    do you guys agree???


                    what do you think abput Pacquiaos transformation over the last few years?
                    **** Nacho!!! In my book, Nacho is an idiot!

                    This is the same guy who advised JMM not to take the $750,000 rematch purse with Pacquaio and this manager/trainer brought JMM to Indonesia to fight for $30,000! So, whatever Nacho sez is pure BS...

                    WTF? JMM lost to MAB if not for that idiot referee, he almost got KTFO. So, how could JMM beat Pacquiao easily according to Nacho?

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                    • pesticid
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                      #30
                      Honestly, Pac has more skills but he's getting old just like Marquez. It's going to be again a toss-up fight. I am cheering against for Marquez of course. Marquez has become more aggressive as of late and some people are saying he is slowing down. Barrera has been working more on defense. I think Marquez might surprise Pacman by pushing him back at times and hitting him with those crazy right uppercut leads. Damn, I can nuthug on Marquez all day long. I think he's the best offensive fighter in the world today. I don't remember the last time I saw a fighter with his arsenal, the variety of punches and combinations is just beyond limits.

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