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  • STEELHEAD
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    #11
    Originally posted by JoartCC
    Let us all not forget that this is the Pac who is now EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO HIT. Ask Mab and he'll tell you Pac is as elusive as ever with his quick reflexes.

    Nacho is probably stating this to give confidence to JMM although I can't see how it will affect him.

    JMM has to come in and be agressive like he did MAB. Toss the coin so to speak and it will be a 50/50 for him.

    Either he KO's Pac or Pac KO's him.

    If JMM chooses to fight backward and be on the defensive then Pac will simply either walk right through him or he will do a Barrera where he will simply pick his spots and continually tag you while avoiding any counterpunches.

    Pac has the skills to make this a rather boring fight if JMM decides to backpeddal too much and Pac will simply blow a wide UD win. JMM knows this.

    He saw what Pac did to Barrera. He literally schooled him.

    Those who think Pac is predictable will get a big shocker AS USUAL come fight night.

    Coz he is ANYTHING BUT PREDICTABLE.
    i've been wrong in the past about pac not being totally focused last couple fights . but thats what i'm thinking again.
    i see this fight going the distance with plenty of tactical (boring?) rounds.

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    • JoartCC
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      #12
      Originally posted by baya
      while beristain is an awesome trainer - pac is anything but predictable.
      Exactly.

      If Nacho is saying Pac is PREDICTABLE.

      Then he better train his man JMM like hell or else it will be an early night for him.

      Let us all remember that Pac said himself that when he saw Barrera running too much he decided to just pick his spots and win rounds.

      People are criticizing it because Pac did not beat up MAB. And it was a somewhat boring fight.

      But let us also remember MAB got schooled big time. He won 2 rounds at the most when Pac decided he will just lay back and pick his spots.

      Nacho is way out of line here.

      And they better not take that seriously or it will be a certain bust.

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        #13
        Originally posted by JoartCC
        Exactly.

        If Nacho is saying Pac is PREDICTABLE.

        Then he better train his man JMM like hell or else it will be an early night for him.

        Let us all remember that Pac said himself that when he saw Barrera running too much he decided to just pick his spots and win rounds.

        People are criticizing it because Pac did not beat up MAB. And it was a somewhat boring fight.

        But let us also remember MAB got schooled big time. He won 2 rounds at the most when Pac decided he will just lay back and pick his spots.

        Nacho is way out of line here.

        And they better not take that seriously or it will be a certain bust.

        lol pick his spots???????he was doing the sam ething he does always but with zero intensity because he was more worried on not getting hit...pretty much waiting till he had the chance to land a pot shot and a flurry here and there...marquez is actually used to guys fighting him like that because marquez is much more experienced at waiting and countering ....i think it will be a pretty boring fight that marquez will edge like 9 rounds to 3 becuase he will land the better shots in competitive rounds(but theres a risk he could get robbed...)

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          #14
          Originally posted by steelhead
          i've been wrong in the past about pac not being totally focused last couple fights . but thats what i'm thinking again.
          i see this fight going the distance with plenty of tactical (boring?) rounds.
          Exactly!

          I mean. Come one.

          We all watched the MAB fight and regardless of MAB old or not.

          Pac LITERALLY SCHOOLED HIM when he fcking choose to lay back and pick his spots.

          By contrast AND STATISTICS SHOW IT, MAB barely hit Pac with anything of importance.

          Pac hit a running MAB with like high 30 percent while a retreating MAB hit PAc with like 20 percent.

          Bottomline it's all in JMM's initiative really.

          PAC has all the tools now to make this a boring fight and simply win rounds.

          If JMM engages then he sucks PAC into the trap of slugging with him. JMM has enough power, enough skill level, enough boxing intelligence to beat Pac and possibly KO him. JMM can choose to do a few feel-out rounds but the moment Pac sees that JMM is not intent in fighting him, then he will simply pick his spots. And it may well be a boring fight.

          And PAC has become extremely good at picking his spots and AVOIDING COUNTERS. MAB fight showed it.

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            #15
            Originally posted by -Hyperion-
            lol pick his spots???????he was doing the sam ething he does always but with zero intensity because he was more worried on not getting hit...pretty much waiting till he had the chance to land a pot shot and a flurry here and there...marquez is actually used to guys fighting him like that because marquez is much more experienced at waiting and countering ....i think it will be a pretty boring fight that marquez will edge like 9 rounds to 3 becuase he will land the better shots in competitive rounds(but theres a risk he could get robbed...)
            The stats show it.

            Pac's face at the end of the fight show it.

            Pac's condition at the end of the fight show it.

            Your inability to see reality for what it is also shows.

            MAB got in 20 percent of his punches.

            PAC got in high 30's.

            You think that Pac will get countered because Pac will rush in.

            Hello!

            That was Pac years ago. But not now.

            Anyway we have the fight night to show proof of that.

            I've said JMM can KO Pac.

            But only if JMM attacks and take his chances.

            On a side note.

            I would like to remind you that may you have the dignity to accept defeat should Pac beat up JMM. Let's not turn this into a hypocrite fest like people stating Pac will lose and when he does exactly the opposite, IDIOTS RECANT AND SAY MAB WAS OLD, MORALES WAS OLD, MY 2 YEAR OLD SON WAS OLD, ETC.

            Can we?

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              #16
              Originally posted by -Hyperion-
              ...marquez is actually used to guys fighting him like that because marquez is much more experienced at waiting and countering ....i think it will be a pretty boring fight that marquez will edge like 9 rounds to 3 becuase he will land the better shots in competitive rounds(but theres a risk he could get robbed...)
              It was Pac who got robbed of a win the first time. One of the judges admitted himself that he made a lapse in scoring.

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                #17
                actually no i dont think pac will rush in but he likes to throw....the moment he throws a jab Marquez will lunge forward with hard counters and will land the better shots....i think the risk for marquez is pretty much getting even older overnight(i dont think so but it could happen), a one punch turn around for manny(doubt it even more...)or a robbery because pacquiao is flashier even if hes not effetctive and marquez is(kind of like JMM vs Chris John...and i see this as a very likely escenario)...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by kasangga
                  It was Pac who got robbed of a win the first time. One of the judges admitted himself that he made a lapse in scoring.
                  yeah he also made a mistake giving pacquiao more than 3 rounds.....

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JoartCC
                    Let us all not forget that this is the Pac who is now EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO HIT. Ask Mab and he'll tell you Pac is as elusive as ever with his quick reflexes.
                    what the **** are you talking about, pacman is as hittable as they come


                    he wasnt any less hittable against barrera

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                      yeah he also made a mistake giving pacquiao more than 3 rounds.....
                      They should get better experienced and credible judges this time. It happens that awarding of rounds during the fight is very subjective, and judges vary, but it was clear that Pac was not given enough credit for the three kd's of the first round. That one point was crucial which resulted in the controversial draw.

                      It's funny, but Pac fans should be raising this issue instead of JMM fans, don't you think?

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