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  • demirturk
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    #21
    isnt he PFP 1 ??? .....

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    • pbftxrs316
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      #22
      Originally posted by JoartCC
      Nope.

      As I've said before.

      Idiotic Fake Floyd fans will hide behind his alphabet titles.

      Every average fan sees this. He's just a waste of time and money.

      Although it is heartening that very few indeed consider Fake FLoyd anything but an elite.

      Elites don't duck.

      Elites don't stutter.

      And most of all.

      Elites don't piss on their pants.
      what does stuttering have to do with not being elite? what the hell are you really trying to get across besides more hatred? floyd has a stuttering problem just like zab judah, just like roy jones, and many other boxers.

      let me ask you this then, who do you feel is elite if floyd isn't? who has he ducked really? was cotto not at the gatti fight? was he not at the brusseles fight? so obviously, he had his chance to call floyd out, but opted not to as he knew he was in for a hell of an ass whooping. you talk about him ducking fighters. i guess you mean margarito, shane, cassamayor, freitez, lascano, kosta, maybe even morrales, barrera, and who knows, you may feel that he ducked hamed even though barrera, hamed, and morrales were all at lower weights when floyd fought at 130, but who knows. i mean, this is the same floyd who called out shane and oscar at the brusseles fight and hell, he was calling them out earlier than that, and claimed he would move up to a catch weight. now why didn't they take the challenge, i mean, they could have fought floy din 05 or 06 seeing how floyd was at 140 pounds in 05. why didn't they take the challenge when he called them out, just like he also called out winky wright, who thought it was a joke, but found out that floyd was serious and opted to want a bigger part of the purse just like floyd. kosta zoo should have fought floyd in 2005, but lost to hatton, and hatton wanted no part of floyd after what he seen him to to gatti, and he even made claim of this, saying he wasn't ready for him yet, and that's okay. many fighters wanted no part of floyd after he destroyed gatti. so, margo comes along and calls out floyd, who wanted oscar de la hoya instead, hmmm....and this is called ducking? no way in hell. what fight would you take? a potential huge fight with a legend like oscar or a good fighter but mainly unknown and not that that means anything, because margo is a good fighter, but who would have been interested in that fight.

      i see your point in that floyd being the best p4p fighter in the sport should fight all comers but he was calling out oscar when he was at 130 so you damn right he wanted oscar. i mean, margo almost passed up his madatory paul williams over a bigger fight with a hot cotto at the time, especially amongst puerto rican fans and margarito being mexican, this could have and still can be a big fight, but opted to go back to williams instead in a losing effort. now, does this mean margarito is a ducker, or does that mean he wants bigger fights. **** what bob arum tries to convey to us about floyd being scared which you obviously fed into to some degree. floyd does not fear tony, floyd is a smart business man. sugar ray leonard took big fights at high risks, and so did floyd fighting at higher weights against good punchers and defeating them. he fought baldomir who was on fire at the time, defeating gatti and judah, and held the wbc welterwieght championship which floyd has always considered the offical belt, and he could have unified the titles by fighting margo which he would have won anyway, but he instead called out shane mosley, a fighter who he's supposedly ducked right? okay, so, shane turns floyd down to go on vacation and get his tooth fixed, but floyd claims his body is wearing down, and the haters jump on his case, yet when shane gets a toothache and turns floyd down who has brittle hands anyway, it's okay right? uh huh...okay, so is shane a ducker then? is margo a ducker for not fighting the bigger fight in cotto? i mean, every fighter wants
      that big fight that catapults their achievements and floyd being the top fighter in the sport deserves this, even if you feel he doesn't, because he is the top fighter so he should have a big enough reputation to fight a de la hoya or a mosley. margarito is no bum imo but he's not on floyd's level and you know it.

      morrales and barrera could habe given floyd tough competiton if they fought their hearts out, because floyd would have tagged the **** out of them at 130 otherwise. kosta lost to hatton and showed really nothing against roger mayweather who was aging rapidly, so against floyd at 140, i don't see how kosta would have won without knocking him out with his amazing right hand. but, floyd also sat down on his punches more at 140 and his right hand got more pop on it at 140 as well, and kosta was great, but he would have lost to floyd too, especially at 140 where floyd showed everything(imo this weight class was his prime), like power, speed, and he was a pace seeing genius as well as a fast defensive fighter with an accurate counterpunch. i never really heard cassa or frietez call floyd out but i have saw where floy dsaid he woul dwant to fight both of them.

      don't make excuses for floyd's opponents calling them bums, because they all had good stats for them.

      now, again i tell you, give the man his props.
      Last edited by pbftxrs316; 11-29-2007, 05:43 AM.

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      • crillz
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        #23
        Originally posted by JoartCC
        Read it again.

        Those are all the valid points you need to know.

        But if you insist.

        "I'm not fighting to prove to the fans who's the best".

        Casamayor - Floyd would have beaten him and he lost to Freitas, also lost to Chico and Floyd was on the move up.
        Freitas - he got the **** beat out of him by Chico, I like Popo but he quit twice once hit with someone he couldn't defeat, Floyd would have battered him, again, Floyd was on the way up
        Kostya - Floyd wanted to face Tszyu but Tszyu chose to face Hatton, he lost and Floyd paid him no nevermind since, Tszyu has YET to come back from that loss
        Margarito - who?? the guy has beaten nobody to be talking about Floyd, Cotto deserves a shot at Floyd before he ever did.
        Cotto - he is about the only guy you named that I want to see Floyd face, after Cotto Floyd will have done everything he needs to do to cement his stone in history, forget Williams and Cintron let them fight and beat each other once Floyd is gone, they the next breed.
        Cintron - fight Williams then fight Margarito, by then Floyd went bye bye.
        WIlliams - fight Cintron then fight Margarito, by then Floyd went bye bye.

        anyone else?

        Do the basic math and that's all you need to know.

        And may I remind you.

        Titles mean nothing without the impressive resume.
        - I agree but Floyd has an impressive resume so whats your point? is it his fault Zab lost to Baldomir? nope, he then went on and took a big challenge and now he's facing another one in 2 weeks, stop ****ing hating already.
        PLAIN and BASIC COMMON SENSE.
        read the parts in bold, there is your reply..

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        • Sugar_ITA
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          #24
          Originally posted by tills9191
          If anything, I don't think he gets the credit that he deserves.
          He's 38-0 and still going strong.
          I belive he can easily become an ATG. It's just a matter of time until he retires, and he will be talked about for years to come.No Bernard Hopkins, no RJJ, no Oscar but Pretty Boy Floyd.
          Just wait and see.
          In my eyes he will be an ATG because he was the linear champion in 4 weight divisions and for his career in the superfeatherweights.
          But after his second match against Castillo he had matches against bums until Judah and De la Hoya.

          In my opinion he's a great champion but in his era Jones, Morales, Barrera and De La Hoya are better. If he defeats Hatton and after him fights Cotto he will be one the greatest fighter of the last 20 years.

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          • MaceTheAce
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            #25
            Frank Bruno won a belt, titles mean **** all if you beat bums to win them, Flloyd is hated on for his outright dodging of top tier opponents and the constant **** that spews out of his mouth and all his bum hole lickers that are team Mayweather.
            Even Flloyd knows he has no respect thats why he is constantly crying about it, and thats why celebs walk out of his fights cause he got all the talk but no walk.
            He is just a gangsta wannabe who humiliates those less fortunate than himself, his attitude on the press tour and 24/7 shows him for what he is and for all to see, if you didnt know who he was and just watched the 24/7 you would hate on him, unless your a gang ****a and like to wear your pants round your ankles and talk with a limp.
            Get the stones out your shoes Flloyd and your head out the clouds cause Hattons gonna **** you up, all the **** you said about wanting Hatton as your ***** is gonna cost you your marbles, not that theres any more room for your brains in your ball sack.

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            • JoartCC
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              #26
              Originally posted by crillz
              read the parts in bold, there is your reply..
              Excuses.

              Excuses means nothing.

              Simple facts.

              He ducked those guys.

              Let's stick to simple facts and erase your excuses from your brains.

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              • JoartCC
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                #27
                Originally posted by MaceTheAce
                Frank Bruno won a belt, titles mean **** all if you beat bums to win them, Flloyd is hated on for his outright dodging of top tier opponents and the constant **** that spews out of his mouth and all his bum hole lickers that are team Mayweather.
                Even Flloyd knows he has no respect thats why he is constantly crying about it, and thats why celebs walk out of his fights cause he got all the talk but no walk.
                He is just a gangsta wannabe who humiliates those less fortunate than himself, his attitude on the press tour and 24/7 shows him for what he is and for all to see, if you didnt know who he was and just watched the 24/7 you would hate on him, unless your a gang ****a and like to wear your pants round your ankles and talk with a limp.
                Get the stones out your shoes Flloyd and your head out the clouds cause Hattons gonna **** you up, all the **** you said about wanting Hatton as your ***** is gonna cost you your marbles, not that theres any more room for your brains in your ball sack.
                Yeah.

                I really wonder where these dudes get their brains.

                It's all basic common sense.

                Fake FLoyd handpicks his opponents.

                PLain and simple.

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                • squealpiggy
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                  #28
                  Most people who know the fight biz (With the exception of a minority of trolling idiots) consider Floyd to be the best fighter, pound for pound, in the world. How the hell can "best in the world" equal "underrated"?

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                  • MaceTheAce
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by squealpiggy
                    Most people who know the fight biz (With the exception of a minority of trolling idiots) consider Floyd to be the best fighter, pound for pound, in the world. How the hell can "best in the world" equal "underrated"?
                    To be regarded as the best you have to beat the best fighters of your said given generation and PBF has not done that.

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                    • crillz
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JoartCC
                      Excuses.

                      Excuses means nothing.

                      Simple facts.

                      He ducked those guys.

                      Let's stick to simple facts and erase your excuses from your brains.
                      those aren't excuses, you act like he signed to fight these guys then pulled out, he beat Chico and Chico beat BOTH Casamayor AND Freitas so why would Floyd even bother? he had his sights set on bigger and better ****, FYI he wanted Tszyu but Tszyu chose to face Hatton and lost, he opted for the other guy and Floyd kept it moving, Cintron, Margarito and Williams don't deserve shots because they have yet to defeat an A class fighter in his prime, Floyd is the champion so how can he face someone who doesn't match the credentials.. it's just NOW that Cotto could qualify to face Floyd because before then he needed an A class fighter on his resume and now he got it, he's good to go but all them other guys you named fell into the mix.. again I ain't trying to justify Floyd's decisions I'm simply explaining them, he fought Mitchell as a tune up and Judah to basically qualify for Baldomir, he beats Baldomir and then moves up to gain another title in a different weight class a la Roy Jones Jr.-John Ruiz, whats so ****ing hard to understand about that? clean your ears yo stop talking like when you pass judgement it can't be nothing else, you making it seem like Floyd ducked these guys, end of story when he had/has LEGITIMATE reasons for not fighting these guys..

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