would you pay $1 million to duck a fighter???

[quntel]

boy are YOU wrong!

he made 10 MILLION all together with the PPV revs..

he wouldve got PPV revs from the Margo FIGHT AS WELL..

not only that HE HAD TO GREASE GOOSEN PALM from the earnings of the Dela fight..
Goosen gave Floyd 8 plus revs from the Baldo fight,,if he got some rights to his next fight that happend to be DELA HOYA..

SO, YOU ARE WRONG...

So did he make 10 million or not..???


Floyd vs. Baldomir = 325,000 buys / $16.3 million

floyd would have got a 35% cut of PPV revenue

0.35 x 16.5 million = 5600105

which equals = 5.6 million

8 million + 5.6 million = 13.6 million

so really floyd made around 13. 6 million off of the Baldomir fight....
if you used your theory of P.P.V earnings....

but floyd took the 10 million offer to him buy Al Haymon and Hbo and didnt get any PPV money.....


DO YOU REALLY WANT TO ARGUE WITH ME...!!!


Because we can make a 2k BET that i am RIGHT.....

i am looking at the **** right now.....


(i believe Floyd thought he wasnt going to sell PPV's with baldomir so thats why he took the 10 FLAT from HBO... insted of 8 million and PPV revenue

[Ray*]

NO HE DIDNT IT WAS THE SAME. plus he gave up 750,000

Yes to make more money mate just like Hatton dump Frank warren to make more money fighting in the States...and here again from Beauty..



The $750,000 buyout is correct, it wasn't $1 million. And it was a wise investment as at the time, Arum and Golden Boy had no intentions of doing business together, even with the amount of $$$ involved in an Floyd-GLH fight. Golden Boy wanted control over any promotion involving Top Rank. Arum wasn't willing to concede, but even if he did allow the fight to happen while Floyd was still his fighter, that would've meant Floyd giving up 30% of his guaranteed purse (which was somewhere between $10-12 million, before PPV upside) for the Oscar fight.

So anyway you slice it, by spending $750,000, he saved well over $3 million. And is now in a position to earn a payday that even exceeds what he made against Oscar. And again, without a promoter dipping into his pockets.

Had Floyd fought and beaten Margarito, he'd have received about as much respect as Williams is presently getting - none. Much like nobody gave Floyd credit for beating Baldomir, after previously bitching he was just a paper titlist and wanted to fight Spinks at 154 for another paper title rather than face the "real" welterweight champ.

I don't know what he made off of the Baldy fight in PPV revenues (if there was any upside as the event didn't exactly fare well for the amounts Goossen had to pay out).

[Ray Ray]

Hey Ray!!!! I've been here. Where have YOU been? Sometimes, I just lurk, especially when there's nothing new for me to learn. (ie. When Mayweather threads are too many etc. Too much repetitive and uninformitive posting.) The fight is next week though, so I am active!!!!!!!!

I've been working my ass off. I understand your point on Floyd threads. The **** is getting out of hand.

Good to have you back posting

[quntel]

Had Floyd fought and beaten Margarito, he'd have received about as much respect as Williams is presently getting - none. Much like nobody gave Floyd credit for beating Baldomir, ).

THAT **** IS FOR REAL TRUE....

[Ray Ray]

THAT **** IS FOR REAL TRUE....

Homie trying to point out that floyd didnt duck Margorito to True Warrior is like talking to a dead horse. You aint gone accomplish ****. True Warrior is a true **** rider:wank: when it comes to Margorito.

REAL TALK.

[quntel]

Homie trying to point out that floyd didnt duck Margorito to True Warrior is like talking to a dead horse. You aint gone accomplish ****. True Warrior is a true **** rider:wank: when it comes to Margorito.

REAL TALK.

yeah you probably right....

he still asking for a mayweather fight....

after he lose to williams....

he should be asking for a rematch with williams to some how prove that the first fight was a fluke..... Which i believe wasnt....


and if Margarito beats williams... then he should ask for cotto...


and if margarito beats cotto

then he should ask for Mayweather...


but his Logic is backwards...

[JakeNDaBox]

was it 35% of the total revenue, or of the PPV upside? Very few promoters offer a payout on the total revenue. There's usually a break-even point, and fighters (SOMETIMES) get a percentage of the profit.

There's no way your numbers are right. That amount would have Floyd taking home a total of 85% of the pie. After paying Baldomir ($1.75 million, plus PPV upside) and the rest of the undercard, Goossen is left with less than $1 million, plus the gate - but still has to pay HBO, who almost always takes their cut off of the top. Which means he would've lost his ass and then some, that night.

I'd have to dig it up, but according to the payout sheet on file with the NSAC, Floyd made a shade over $8 million. So that alone says you're wrong about his getting $10 million guaranteed. Unless, the other $2 million was paid under the table.

So did he make 10 million or not..???


Floyd vs. Baldomir = 325,000 buys / $16.3 million

floyd would have got a 35% cut of PPV revenue

0.35 x 16.5 million = 5600105

which equals = 5.6 million

8 million + 5.6 million = 13.6 million

so really floyd made around 13. 6 million off of the Baldomir fight....
if you used your theory of P.P.V earnings....

but floyd took the 10 million offer to him buy Al Haymon and Hbo and didnt get any PPV money.....


DO YOU REALLY WANT TO ARGUE WITH ME...!!!


Because we can make a 2k BET that i am RIGHT.....

i am looking at the **** right now.....


(i believe Floyd thought he wasnt going to sell PPV's with baldomir so thats why he took the 10 FLAT from HBO... insted of 8 million and PPV revenue

[JakeNDaBox]

From JAKE, not Beauty (unless you meant it as a come on, in which case, I don't swing that way )

Yes to make more money mate just like Hatton dump Frank warren to make more money fighting in the States...and here again from Beauty..



The $750,000 buyout is correct, it wasn't $1 million. And it was a wise investment as at the time, Arum and Golden Boy had no intentions of doing business together, even with the amount of $$$ involved in an Floyd-GLH fight. Golden Boy wanted control over any promotion involving Top Rank. Arum wasn't willing to concede, but even if he did allow the fight to happen while Floyd was still his fighter, that would've meant Floyd giving up 30% of his guaranteed purse (which was somewhere between $10-12 million, before PPV upside) for the Oscar fight.

So anyway you slice it, by spending $750,000, he saved well over $3 million. And is now in a position to earn a payday that even exceeds what he made against Oscar. And again, without a promoter dipping into his pockets.

Had Floyd fought and beaten Margarito, he'd have received about as much respect as Williams is presently getting - none. Much like nobody gave Floyd credit for beating Baldomir, after previously bitching he was just a paper titlist and wanted to fight Spinks at 154 for another paper title rather than face the "real" welterweight champ.

I don't know what he made off of the Baldy fight in PPV revenues (if there was any upside as the event didn't exactly fare well for the amounts Goossen had to pay out).

[quntel]

was it 35% of the total revenue, or of the PPV upside? Very few promoters offer a payout on the total revenue. There's usually a break-even point, and fighters (SOMETIMES) get a percentage of the profit.

There's no way your numbers are right. That amount would have Floyd taking home a total of 85% of the pie. After paying Baldomir ($1.75 million, plus PPV upside) and the rest of the undercard, Goossen is left with less than $1 million, plus the gate - but still has to pay HBO, who almost always takes their cut off of the top. Which means he would've lost his ass and then some, that night.

I'd have to dig it up, but according to the payout sheet on file with the NSAC, Floyd made a shade over $8 million. So that alone says you're wrong about his getting $10 million guaranteed. Unless, the other $2 million was paid under the table.

we can bet on this right now if you want too..???

i have videos and articles....
so its up too you....




FROM NOW ON....

I AM BETTING TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE....

[beauty]

I've been working my ass off. I understand your point on Floyd threads. The **** is getting out of hand.

Good to have you back posting