Whats Wrong with American Heavyweights?

[beez721]

Yeah Cooper hit Ali with a big punch. To bad Wlads corner couldn't do the same against Sanders, huh.
Anybody saying Wlad belongs in the same breath as Ali need to get their heads examined.

ali was great,,,but stylistically the post steward wlad would have given ali loads of trouble. no question about it in my opinion. now,,,,as far as accomplishments go wlad obviously doesnt even come close to ali. it would take a mental midget to think otherwise

[Jim Jeffries]

When did I ever bring Tyson into this discussion, SMART GUY?
Yes, Ali lost more then 3 times SMART GUY.
Wlad is not a bum, but hey, he got KTFO by a couple of "bums"
But to put Wlad on the list of all time great HW's?
Are you ****ing serious? Are you just that big of a nut hugger?
Never mind. I already know.

We're talking about head to head matchups here dufus. Read my posts, where do I call Wlad an all time great? I said his career isn't done yet. And if you think Sanders and Brewster were bums, then you're just delusional.

[BiggyGuns91]

I think the 6,6 245 lb Wlad would beat the 6,3 210 lb Ali. Ali wasn't a big puncher, so I can't see him stopping Wlad. I can see the bigger,stronger Wlad beating Ali by KO/TKO. Wlad,Lewis and Vitali are modern day monsters, they're all highly capable of beating any heavyweight from any era.

this is what the brain of a ****** produces...

[Steak]

Ali would have been knocked out IN HIS PRIME by a 180 lb brit named Henry Cooper, in their first fight, if Dundee hadn't torn his glove open to give him more time. Only reason there weren't any top Russian heavyweights back then is because the government wouldn't allow them to turn pro.

so youre saying that all the boxers from Russia were all stuck in the amateurs? but there were boxers from other countries that beat Russians in the amateurs.

[WLAD OWNS]

this is what the brain of a ****** produces...

The new improved Wlad would give Ali a ****load of trouble, it's a bad matchup for Ali stylistically and I could see Wlad beating him. If you think Wlad would have had no chance against Ali than you don't know **** about boxing.

[BiggyGuns91]

The new improved Wlad would give Ali a ****load of trouble, it's a bad matchup for Ali stylistically and I could see Wlad beating him. If you think Wlad would have had no chance against Ali than you don't know **** about boxing.

someone ought to knock some sense into you

[Jim Jeffries]

so youre saying that all the boxers from Russia were all stuck in the amateurs? but there were boxers from other countries that beat Russians in the amateurs.

Yes, they could not turn pro. I'm not saying Russians would have been dominating the heavyweight division all along AT ALL. But clearly there would have been boxers from Russia and Cuba that would have been in the heavyweight picture for a lot of, and not just the last part of, the last century.

[beez721]

someone ought to knock some sense into you

not sure whats so hard to grasp about that post. ali as great as he was did struggle with a lot of fighters and also got a couple questionable wins. wlad is a giant heavyweight with solid boxing skills and one punch power in either hand. he's become a more complete fighter over the last few years and would have given ali problems. ali was great but did have his share of difficult fights

[dmaclv]

The new improved Wlad would give Ali a ****load of trouble, it's a bad matchup for Ali stylistically and I could see Wlad beating him. If you think Wlad would have had no chance against Ali than you don't know **** about boxing.

ay whaddya kno my boy got an avatar! Wlad don't forget Ali fights 15 round fights and we all know how Wlad gets in the champ rounds (Ross Puritty) Ali in his prime wouldn't go down against Wlad and probably wins a UD. Man Foreman threw all he had against Ali and it didn't stop him and don't mean to bust ur ego but dog, Foreman had a lot more power in his day then Wlad. Don't waste your time talkin bout Wlad against fighters of yesteryear talk **** to us about Wlad and who's he gonna beat tomorrow

[Wiley Hyena]

True that I havent seen a real fit heavyweight since tyson

Yeah, Evander Holyfield was never fit....umm..