Pavlik Cleared To Train For Taylor Rematch

[WLAD OWNS]

you guys are so naive sometimes, this fight is going to be fought at a weight that Taylor will feel better at, it isn't for the Middleweight title it's just for pride so he has something to prove here, you guys are so ****ed up by the 1st fight that you forget that TAYLOR WAS WINNING THE FIGHT, if it wasn't due to little mistakes which I AM SURE he will fix then he would have easily lead on the score cards, you guys need to throw some contacts on and stop being so blind towards Taylor, Pavlik is good but he is very flawed as well..

I can see Taylor now more than ever working behind his jab and just being on point with his punches, keeping **** in the middle of the ring and basically moving his head better, more respectful towards Pavlik's power so he wnt exchange too much with him he will just apply his own Boxing skills and win the rounds, I'll tell you this though Pavlik's height is his biggest weapon, not so much his punches, just imagine Trinidad being the way he is at 6'3? see what I mean? I can see Pavlik working behind his jab and using that overhand but if Taylor can Box effectively then I don't see him finding Jermain..

all it would take for Jermain to win is the use of skills, as is Jermain is pretty tall and has superior skills so if he can find his rhythm and play it out for 12, which I believe he can if he doesn't get caught up in them corners, then Kelly would trail in the 12th, maybe 4 rounds topps if Taylor Boxing to the full extent of his ability.. don't forget yo Taylor feels like he got something to prove, he WON the 1st Boxing match dogz he just lost the FIGHT.. 100

You fail to realize that Pavlik will be even more comfortable at 166, he has a harder time making weight than Taylor. I had Pavlik winning the first fight before he KO'd Taylor, he was landing his jab and right hands at will. Taylor and Steward even said they thought they were losing the fight.

Taylor has no chance, he keeps his left hand too low and he is a sitting duck for Pavlik's devastating right hand bombs. Pavlik is just a bad matchup for Taylor and he will get KO'd easily this time around.

Pavlik KO 5

[Thunder Lips]

"TAYLOR WAS WINNING THE FIGHT"

Those judges were nuts and so is anyone who seriously believes that. Taylor was getting battered and backed up for most of the fight, eating jab after jab after jab while most of his shots were being blocked. His face was even swelling up by the end of the first and his eye was closing by the time of the knockout. I gave Taylor the 2nd and 5th round, but can't see many others going his way.

Taylor's best strategy is to keep his feet and left hand busy like he did in the 5th round but even than, it's doubtful he can keep up that workrate against Pavlik all night, who will be making continous adjustments and staying active. The right over the jab worked once in the 2nd but it was off an unusually lazy Pavlik throw and he was never open for it again. Taylor's chances are slim.

And Taylor does not have superior skills than Pavlik. Pavlik is much more technically sound while Taylor has superior hand speed and little else it seems.

[Piggu]

you guys are so ****ed up by the 1st fight that you forget that TAYLOR WAS WINNING THE FIGHT, if it wasn't due to little mistakes which I AM SURE he will fix

How can you be sure he'll fix anything? He's been making the same mistakes since the first Hopkins fight.

[Pugilistic™]

only reason taylor got a knockdown was because pavlik put his hand down and taunted taylor. pavlik is gonna ko him again

[SHB]

"TAYLOR WAS WINNING THE FIGHT"

Those judges were nuts and so is anyone who seriously believes that. Taylor was getting battered and backed up for most of the fight, eating jab after jab after jab while most of his shots were being blocked. His face was even swelling up by the end of the first and his eye was closing by the time of the knockout. I gave Taylor the 2nd and 5th round, but can't see many others going his way. .

Well, I can't agree. I had Taylor comfortably ahead before he capitulated. Pavlik looked horrible in this fight and got lucky with one home run swing IMO.

The key to this rematch is Taylor IMO. If he is mentally focused on saving his career then he could dominate Pavlik. My question is purely about Taylor's mental state.

[satori555]

anyone who thought taylor was winning is an idiot enough said

[M.I Truth ?]

Its funny to me how everyone is making it seem like this is a pointless fight or that Pavlik will have an easy time. The first fight was great and Pavlik was lucky to make it out. I don't understand how anyone could not have this fight as even at best. What would have happened if Pavlik didn't make it out of the second round? That could have easily happened but Pavlik was able to turn the tide. I want to see this fight and I feel the out come could go either way. If pavlik wins you have a new star and fresh face that can challenge the other names in the sport. If Taylor wins there will probably be a third fight witch will solidify the battle as one of the great boxing trilogies. Its a win win.

[Thunder Lips]

Well, I can't agree. I had Taylor comfortably ahead before he capitulated. Pavlik looked horrible in this fight and got lucky with one home run swing IMO.

The key to this rematch is Taylor IMO. If he is mentally focused on saving his career then he could dominate Pavlik. My question is purely about Taylor's mental state.

Come on, neither guy looked horrible. Even in defeat, Taylor probably gave one of his best career performances and I was certainly surprised when he stunned Pavlik in the second. He just couldn't land **** after that and it was not like he wasn't trying(especially the 5th and 6th), Pavlik's defense was just too tight while he was landing the 1-2 at will.


One home run swing? Are you trying to kid me or myself with that one?

Taylor's mental state? Coming into the fight undefeated with considerably more Championship experience than his challenger, he looked nervous and fought that way. I can only imagine how he's going to come into this one having been knocked out in such brutal fashion. This isn't Lewis/Rahman, man.

[crillz]

You fail to realize that Pavlik will be even more comfortable at 166, he has a harder time making weight than Taylor. I had Pavlik winning the first fight before he KO'd Taylor, he was landing his jab and right hands at will. Taylor and Steward even said they thought they were losing the fight.

Taylor has no chance, he keeps his left hand too low and he is a sitting duck for Pavlik's devastating right hand bombs. Pavlik is just a bad matchup for Taylor and he will get KO'd easily this time around.

Pavlik KO 5

what you failing to realize yourself is that while Pavlik may have MORE of a harder time making weight Taylor isn't too far behind, they BOTH have hard times making weight and you also fail to realize this, who is Jermain Taylor's worst critic? answer: himself, another question, what does Emmanuel Steward do when he feels the fight is close and wants him to step it up? any trainer for that matter? answer: tells them they losing the fight..

right now Taylor's pride is hurt like a mother****er, he even decided to put championships to the side and just make sure he is at his MOST comfortability, not only does he have ACTUAL experience against Pavlik he knows when he will be in a position to pay, he wont be so willing to sit up in them corners and strike back yo his initial reaction would be to move his ass out of there, Taylor was winning the fight yo when I hear People saying Pavlik won they be like "His face was even swelling up by the end of the first" and "eating jab after jab after jab while most of his shots were being blocked.", seems to me they were only watching 1 man fighting that night then because they overlooked Round 2, Round 5 and like 2 or 3 more that I can't recall right now, Pavlik was well enough behind that he needed to step it up, which he did..

thing is though Taylor can Box better than Pavlik it's just Kelly's longer arms combined with his great jab makes it hard on Taylor, Taylor just needs to move his head better and not just jerk his neck left to right, actually weave when he weaves, really bob when he bob's and basically repeat the last fight and go into counter punch city, people under estimate Jermain's power, even Pavlik slept on it cuz what he said at the interview? "the kid hits like a mule", not you tell me how much harder do you think this mule is going to come into the fight?

truth be told I fell under the impression that Taylor slept on Pavlik for a while, that once he stepped in front of him all that bull**** he was talking before the fight ****ed him up, he had no answers for Kelly regardless what they trained for because in the heat of the battle that **** flies out of the window when you hit with some **** you don't expect.. I say Jermain comes back twice as hard and if nothing else he will finish the fight on his feet, I think he learned from getting caught up in them ropes and even though he didn't switch up for "head"-hop he also wasn't made to pay for his mistakes, had he lost and had real adversity in front of him like he does with Kelly Pavlik, an undefeated, young, primed lion who's hunger is maxed out he would've had to come better in the rematch which I feel he will..

I don't expect y'all to read this all but read this though, Taylor paid a big price for engaging with the bigger man, at times he was supposed to Box Pavlik he moved straight back with no head movement and tried to hit Kelly while doing so, in turn allowing Pavlik's longer overhand the chance to land and due to his lack of good upper lateral movement he was hit with the shots that changed his momentum, add that to this fact that in round 2 he waisted so many punches and got too excited when he thought he had a beaten opponent in front of him. these are Ametuer mistake's and Taylor is no Ametuer, he CAN adapt it's just a shame he had to get KO'ed in a fight he was winning to be forced to do it.. I'm not saying Taylor is going to win, I may have found myself saying that in the past but Pavlik is a tough dude, I gotta re-analyze the 1st fight to say for sure who I pick BUT I'm just saying don't be so quick to throw Taylor out of the mix, Taylor is a beast too. 100

[aljon]

Lightning doesn't strike twice in the same spot. Pavlik won't get tagged the way he did the 2nd round. Pavlik KO Round 6 or 8.