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  • Azteca
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    #51
    Brawling is one dimensional.
    So is swarming.
    So is boxing.
    So is punching.

    A great fighter can do all 4.

    Julian Jackson wasn't great because all he could do was punch.
    Howard Davis Jr. wasn't great because all he could do was box.
    Iran Barkley was never great because all he could do was brawl.


    ....get my point?

    Just because you box on the outside...doesn't make you technical.

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      #52
      Originally posted by robjr
      nice to see Paulie on thta list.
      Yeah.. I've been getting that a lot. LOL

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        #53
        Originally posted by C-Drone
        You just prefer combinations. Mayweather doesn't throw combinations. So, he must suck, right? Same goes for Willie Pep. And Whitaker in some fights did more of a pot-shot, so he is horrible, too.

        See? I can name fighters that suport my claims, too.

        For the record, Robinson is my favorite fighter, I'm just making a point.
        Drone...

        Mayweather can win any way he wants. He can win going forward or backwards.

        Whitaker beat plenty of guys by going forward. He beat the straight ahead guys by going backwards.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Azteca
          Brawling is one dimensional.
          So is swarming.
          So is boxing.
          So is punching.

          A great fighter can do all 4.

          Julian Jackson wasn't great because all he could do was punch.
          Howard Davis Jr. wasn't great because all he could do was box.
          Iran Barkley was never great because all he could do was brawl.


          ....get my point?

          Just because you box on the outside...doesn't make you technical.
          I get your point. HOWEVER, you don't have to do ALL FOUR to be considered great, either. You can be GREAT at what you do, by sticking to what works and adapting when you need to. Manny Pacquaio is a great fighter. He's not the most versatile fighter though, is he? yet, it gets the job done. He's not technical, but that's not important. Technical, TECHNIQUE. Those 5 guys, to me, have the best technique at what they do. You disagree, GREAT. I'm glad. Don't act like your criteria makes more sense just because you prefer it.

          It's preference, not official.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Azteca
            Drone...

            Mayweather can win any way he wants. He can win going forward or backwards.

            Whitaker beat plenty of guys by going forward. He beat the straight ahead guys by going backwards.
            I realize. That's what I'VE been saying. You fight how you'll win. Mayweather can go forward, he's GONE backwars when needed. I'm not saying they can't. Guzman had a hard puncher in front of him, why would he have chosen to go forward in that one and cut off the ring? In the same situation with a fighter the caliber of Soto, is Whitaker gong to go forward and be patient and move it back. I'm guessing back.

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              #56
              It's not preference Drone.

              I was a fan of Whitaker for years.
              I have liked Winky lately.

              Both guys have shown me what they can do. Winky boxed Vargas' ears off, and went at Taylor and swarmed him.

              Whitaker decapitated Hurtado with brawling punches, and outboxed the **** out of Chavez.

              Both guys have adapted to every situation.

              Spinks? Nahh..
              Malignaggi? Cotto sure put the hurtin' on him. He got outboxed by the shorter and slower foe, BTW.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Azteca
                It's not preference Drone.

                I was a fan of Whitaker for years.
                I have liked Winky lately.

                Both guys have shown me what they can do. Winky boxed Vargas' ears off, and went at Taylor and swarmed him.

                Whitaker decapitated Hurtado with brawling punches, and outboxed the **** out of Chavez.

                Both guys have adapted to every situation.

                Spinks? Nahh..
                Malignaggi? Cotto sure put the hurtin' on him. He got outboxed by the shorter and slower foe, BTW.
                Yeah, the naturally stronger/heavier and harder hitting foe. You're right. And it was still a close fight.

                Malignaggi didn't move forward against N'Dou, even knocking him down? His soft-punching ass knocked a solid chinned fighter down. No pressure from him though, right?

                Calderon is in an unatural wiehgtclass, and when he wasn't, he was outclassing everyone. He should have risked more?

                Guzman has a decent KO ratio, especially for a guy who doesn't have to finish you. You should watch a highlight reel of Guzman.. I jknow they take the best ****. I'm not denying that. You'll see combinations though, I promise you that. I don't hate Winky or Whitaker either. You seem to have something against the type of fighter I chose though. Perhaps the fighters themselves.

                It's PREFERENCE. As this is opinion. We're not debating numbers. We're debating our opinions. You shouldn't assume your opinions are fact. They're just as factual/non-factual as anyone elses, including mine.

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                  #58
                  It's not preference bro.

                  There is a reason why people view Ray Robinson as one of the best skilled of all time. Ray Leonard too.

                  They could do it all. Leonard boxed hagler's ears off. But showed he could go toe to toe against duran.

                  it's called adapting. Most fighters aren't very good at it. And that includes Ricky hatton.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Azteca
                    It's not preference bro.

                    There is a reason why people view Ray Robinson as one of the best skilled of all time. Ray Leonard too.

                    They could do it all. Leonard boxed hagler's ears off. But showed he could go toe to toe against duran.

                    it's called adapting. Most fighters aren't very good at it. And that includes Ricky hatton.
                    I realize. But to say that when one fighter does more of one thing than the other, and that's more important that another skill.. NOW, you're talking preference. Combinations aren't the most important thing to me. Very important.. but not the most important thing to me. It's a preference thing.

                    Mayweather.. Defense: De La Hoya - Offense: Corrales.

                    Calderon.. Defense: Cazares - Offense: Forgot the Spaniards name.

                    Guzman.. Defense: Soto - Offense: Barrios.

                    Malignaggi.. Defense: Couple to pick from - Offense: Cotto/N'Dou.

                    Marquez.. Defense: Pacquaio(though it had flashes of both) - Offense: Barrera/Juarez.

                    I believe my list has a good balance to it. I kept the list young, to see how true my list really is, aswell. Other than Marquez, my fighters only have 1 loss between them all. So, they obviously can adapt. Let's just wait and see how correct I really am, or am not.

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                      #60
                      Whatever.

                      I feel I am right and you feel you are right.

                      What else is new, lol?

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