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  • Azteca
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    #41
    Originally posted by C-Drone
    Because those are the fighters that tend to be most accurate. Some combination-minded fighters can be accurate.. Diaz comes to mind. HOWEVER, these guys posses an overall skill-set superior to a Juan Diaz in my opinion. I still think he'd beat, for example Guzman, but p4p, skillwise.. I think Guzman is better.. It's just a style thing.

    You guys need to quit thinking I'm some biased fan. I just gave a list. A personal list. That's all.

    And iceskating, in a way.. proves a point. Some boxing fans can't respect details that iceskaters spend hours perfecting. It's still the gayest thing since the rusty trombone.............
    dude...Guzman is evasive that's about it. Where's his combination punching? Wheres his in and out ability? Does he ever cut off the ring??? Where's his body punching????

    Where the hell is it???????????

    You are confusing technique and skills with evasivness and athleticism.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Azteca
      What about Zag? minus the body punching and uppercut, klitschko is an incredibly gifted fighter. Diaz. I can go on and on.

      you seem impressed by these lower weight fighters. you do realize that it takes a different set of skills to compete at heavyweight then lightweight. Do you???
      Depends on the fighter. To assume it does or doesn't is a very sweeping statement. A statement I wont make or agree to. Ali had a welterweight skill-set to him. Got him pretty far. Calzaghe, is one of my favorite fighters. But he's VERY AWKWARD. I don't mind it, it works and he's exciting. BUt if you were first training a fighter. With the basics, you don't show him a tape of Calzaghe and say.. do that. lol.. Do you?

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      • Azteca
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        #43
        Ok....Joe Louis, Duran, Leonard, guys like that are incredible technically.

        Guys like Cory Spinks...not so great.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Azteca
          dude...Guzman is evasive that's about it. Where's his combination punching? Wheres his in and out ability? Does he ever cut off the ring??? Where's his body punching????

          Where the hell is it???????????

          You are confusing technique and skills with evasivness and athleticism.

          Cutting off the ring he doesn't do. Combinations.. he has PLENTY of. You ever seen the Barrios fight? He was landing 3-4 to 1. In and out, he gets done the whole ****in fight. Incredible feints. Not everyone NEEDS to bodypunch by the way. Cutting of the ring, doesn't mean much, consdering some peope are backwards fighters. Doesn't take away from them.

          I'm not confusing technique with evasiveness and athleticism. That would be a Roy Jones fan. I mentioned plenty of other skills, you just seem hung up on the hitting and moving thing.

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            #45
            Barrios is limited, man. You saw him fight vs. Soto who as a good technical fighter. He never did the three things I mentioned.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Azteca
              Ok....Joe Louis, Duran, Leonard, guys like that are incredible technically.

              Guys like Cory Spinks...not so great.
              You just don't seem to like boring fighters. Which is what I said in the beginning. I't snot about what you like, it's about what works best, technically. It's no big deal. Cory Spinks is a very solid fighter. Boring as silent ****o to a blind man, but he is very fundamentally sound. Not in my top 5, but not every fighter needs to be an infighter, coming forward and throwigng nothing but combinations.

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                #47
                COMBINATION PUNCHING IS PROBABLY WHAT EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER IN BOXING THAT IS GREAT HAS IN COMMON!!!!!

                Joe louis...great comibination puncher.
                Duran...great combination puncher.
                Leonard....great combination puncher.
                Ray Robinson....great combination puncher.

                All the fighters above could mix it up inside or outside.

                Spinks is one dimensional. He has one way to win and that is on the outside. Same goes for Paulie. Even Calderon to an extent.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Azteca
                  Barrios is limited, man. You saw him fight vs. Soto who as a good technical fighter. He never did the three things I mentioned.

                  So? Is what you said, the OFFICAL criteria for a technical fighter? It's about preferance. Why are you so threatened by mine? He's a backward moving fighter, cutting off the ring is virtually pointless with that. He normally throws more combinations than that, so it's no big deal. Barrios is limited, but that's not what the question is, is it? Question was combinations. He fought a VERY tough fighter in Soto, very good fighter, and he just happened to need a different gameplan. Isn't that the point of a technical fighter? Figure out how to beat someone, then do it. Technically sound and all.

                  For the record, brawlers do make it in this sport. You can call them what you want, but they exist. They make movies in the their home countries if they brawl well enough.

                  You're Azteca.. and like Juan Diaz. And seem to hate Guzman.. can I take it you rooted for Soto?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Azteca
                    COMBINATION PUNCHING IS PROBABLY WHAT EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER IN BOXING THAT IS GREAT HAS IN COMMON!!!!!

                    Joe louis...great comibination puncher.
                    Duran...great combination puncher.
                    Leonard....great combination puncher.
                    Ray Robinson....great combination puncher.

                    All the fighters above could mix it up inside or outside.

                    Spinks is one dimensional. He has one way to win and that is on the outside. Same goes for Paulie. Even Calderon to an extent.
                    You just prefer combinations. Mayweather doesn't throw combinations. So, he must suck, right? Same goes for Willie Pep. And Whitaker in some fights did more of a pot-shot, so he is horrible, too.

                    See? I can name fighters that suport my claims, too.

                    For the record, Robinson is my favorite fighter, I'm just making a point.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by C-Drone
                      This is not for the most exciting. This is not for who you like/like to watch the most. It's for the fighters who put the science in sweet science. The fighters who show the most TECHNICAL skill in the fights. These guys are not runners, they just don't get hit. They move. If I throw a brick at you and you move, are you running from it, or getting out of the ****ing way of it? In my opinion, here we go. In order or important.

                      1. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.: He's a best fighter in the world, p4p, in most opinions. Not always that exciting, though some of his last opponents have been bigger than him. He has a "total package" feel to him, in terms of skills. At the lower weight classes, he had better combinations and still manages them, depending on the fight. He has a wide variety of punches and has perfect balance when he throws his punches. Short, accurate shots (pot-shotting or not) and his defense is impeccible. He rolls the shoulders well, and keep shi hands where they need to be. Fast hands and feeet, with very nice foot work in the first place and can move, hit and not get hit, with the best of them.

                      2. IVAN CALDERON: If he had the same set of skills at welterweight and fit the weight naturally, he'd be p4p number one in my opinion. He just hasn't been tested against enough guys because of his lower weight class situation. The ONLY reason he's not number one, is because he needs to test himself against more elite fighters to truly prove he's as great as I think he is. Fast mover, soft puncher but he's accurate and crisp with his shots. Has a VERY wide array of punches and can throw from MANY angles. He hits you, moves before you hit him and he hits again. It's a volume thing for him when he gets going. Great defense, and loves to counter-punch. His combinations are very well-timed and well-thrown. He can keep you at the end of a jab just was well as he can fight off the ropes.

                      3. JOAN GUZMAN: He can make you look like an ******* if he tries hard enough. He, in certain ways, reminds me of the ol' Willie Pep story. Youget the sense that against the right guy, he could make you score a round in favor of him, if he never threw a punch. He just makes the other guy look that bad. He throws fast, strong accurate combinations. Probably the best combinations on this list. Has a nice selection of punches to throw from and he throws often and precise the whole fight. His defense is essentially his reflexes, seeing as how he often keeps his hands low but it's worked so far. When his hands are up, his reflexes tend to work in his favor and he can pick off shots well. His footwork is very impressive and he can stand toe to toe long enough to win an exchange but get out of the way before he has a chance to get hit.

                      4. PAULIE MALIGNAGGI: He's the first on the list with a loss and it was in a close fight with a naturally bigger fighter. A great fighter in Miguel Cotto. Other than that, he's boxed the ears off anyone else he's faced. Other than my number five, I'd say he's CLEARLY the most exciting out of these fighters. He punches in bunches plenty and moves in and out of harms way. He couldn't punch the dust off of a newspaper but he's very accurate when he hits. With so many punches, he can wear you down and get the job done that way. His footwork is a nice addition to his game recently and his fast hands and nice reflexes are able to stunt any offense by a lot of opponents. He has a good ability to counter-punch and do so with more than one punch. His defense lacks when he gets into a brawl but usually can keep his game in check and stay smart. Usually controls the pace of a fight and his hands stay high and tight for the most part.

                      5. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ: Perhaps he has slipped a bit lately, or maybe he's attempting to be a bit more exciting. Regardless, when he's on his game, his game is superior to just about anyone around his weight class. Good head movement and keeps his hands where they need to be. Smart fighter who can adapt to most styles and rework his gameplan mid-fight. Has been avoided by most fighters for a long while due to his ability to take a punch and give them just as effortlessly. he slips punches and counters very well and has underrated footwork. He starts slow but finishes strong (perhaps for obvious reasons) and can close the show when he has to. p4p, the strongest of these 5 punchers but mixes in his skills very well to let the knockdown/knockout comes to him so he doens't chase it. Very patient and and can find the openings well once he gets going.

                      There you have it.

                      HONORABLE MENTION:
                      - Bernard Hopkins
                      - Junior Witter
                      - Chad Dawson

                      That's all.
                      nice to see Paulie on thta list.

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