Even Larry Merchant said he had the cotto vs shane mosley a draw...

[rambov]

like i said that's u

Dude what's rascist about that statement?
Don't air out your frustrations on me.
Do I sound like a rascist? You don't even know what my ethnicity is.....

[loui_ludwig]

In no way that fight was a draw. I was rooting for Mosley but Cotto won clearly.

[MaFu MoFo]

Larry Merchant was politically correct to call Cotto-Mosley a tie, totally expected. Last week, I saw it 115-113 Cotto. Last night, sober, and chilling at home I scored like this...

1- Cotto
2- Cotto
3- Mosley
4- Cotto (Mosley hold too much)
5- Mosley
6- Cotto (Mosley ran)
7- Cotto
8- Cotto
9- Mosley (Cotto ran)
10- Mosley
11- Cotto
12- Mosley (Cotto ran)


So once again I called it 115-113, Cotto. But I will be honest, it was a great fight I will buy a 114-114 score and even a score 0f 116-112 in favor of Cotto. BUT Mosley did not win the fight, not even 115-113.


About the "wet mat" incidents, it happende to both fighters. you could tell Cotto used the center to dry off his soles a couple of tmies. Both time the ref paid attention to the wet mat was because Mosley complaint, even when it was to his disadvantage.

[pound4poundabes]

shut the **** up u *****...why u talk **** some much mother****er this is the internet keeep bringing this puertorican bull**** hopefully they ban ur ****** ass u go towards american ****ing fighters what's the big deal are u jealous ***** ahh does it bother u so stop this racist bull**** ***** its the internet.

lol come on man, im no ***** .... i say this **** everywhere in the street ...my boy who's puertorican aint biast like the mutha****as on the forum so we dont have an issue there ... trust me though ...i dont bite my tounge for no one ... and how the **** am i racist ??? lol ...i am not a ****in racist ... i love the puertorican culture ... puertoricans are pretty much just black with hispanic in them ... i mean damn ...why would i be racist when we all have the same type of blood runnin through our veins ...???
i would trust a puertorican before i would trust anyone because their word is bond man ... the only problem i have with some puertoricans is that yaw are very biast when it comes to **** like this ,....(which aint a big deal at all) I'm pretty sure if you and me were face to face we would argue about this **** in a peacful friendly matter ... laugh joke and bull**** it off ... trust me man , im no racist ...just being blunt thats all ...

[pound4poundabes]

Larry Merchant was politically correct to call Cotto-Mosley a tie, totally expected. Last week, I saw it 115-113 Cotto. Last night, sober, and chilling at home I scored like this...

1- Cotto
2- Cotto
3- Mosley
4- Cotto (Mosley hold too much)
5- Mosley
6- Cotto (Mosley ran)
7- Cotto
8- Cotto
9- Mosley (Cotto ran)
10- Mosley
11- Cotto
12- Mosley (Cotto ran)


So once again I called it 115-113, Cotto. But I will be honest, it was a great fight I will buy a 114-114 score and even a score 0f 116-112 in favor of Cotto. BUT Mosley did not win the fight, not even 115-113.


About the "wet mat" incidents, it happende to both fighters. you could tell Cotto used the center to dry off his soles a couple of tmies. Both time the ref paid attention to the wet mat was because Mosley complaint, even when it was to his disadvantage.

good point but mosley was landing the harder shots in my opinion ...molsey would get hit and come right back at him ... cotto jab is what made him look so good ... cotto just didnt fight like a champion in my opinion ..if they fought in Vegas ...then mosley would have won easily ... cotto had everything in his favor , the crowd, the judges and the ref ... but cotto didnt fight the championship rounds ...y ? because he was scared and wanted to play it safe ....


cotto last four rounds = ***** moves.

[MaFu MoFo]

good point but mosley was landing the harder shots in my opinion ...molsey would get hit and come right back at him ... cotto jab is what made him look so good ... cotto just didnt fight like a champion in my opinion ..if they fought in Vegas ...then mosley would have won easily ... cotto had everything in his favor , the crowd, the judges and the ref ... but cotto didnt fight the championship rounds ...y ? because he was scared and wanted to play it safe ....


cotto last four rounds = ***** moves.

Dude, I also saw Cotto fighting back when getting hard punches from Mosley. Even the comentators said so...

I am going to go even more far by posting that I saw Mosley throwing hard punches and hitting just thin air as Cotto quickly moved out of the way. I was surprised to see Cotto as fast as he was. Cotto is boxing smarter than expected and is doing it very well. Hats off.

About Las Vegas comments, I know, and I am sure Cotto would had fight differently and still would have been a great close fight in his favor. He still is an UnDefeated WW Champ.


Anyway, you also got good points of view.

[wpink1]

Hmmm so what many of you are saying is that It could be SCORED for Cotto close or even a draw but impossible for Mosley to win it. Hmmmmmm

I think differently. I can agree with the decision, I also can see it a draw as it most likely should have been. I can also see it for Mosley, as he was the aggessor in the 2nd half of the fight, the championship rounds.

Common sense tells you based on scoring if it was dead equal in punches landed and Mosley landed LESS jabs, and Mosley was the aggessor & many if not everyone says it was very close and could have been a draw then it is very understandable if someone sees it a close win for Mosley.

I break it down like this. Cotto had the more effective jab and through the 1st 6 rounds I had him ahead by 2 points and was really starting to wear Mosley down, and inflict himself on shane. 7the and 8th Shane really altered the fight with his bounding and Cotto sat back and watched more so and this took him out of his rhtyme with Mosley getting back in the fight. Rounds 9 and 10 where GREAT GREAT GREAT STUFF. Shane sensing something was wrong with Cotto and started backing Cotto up seizing command of the fight, clearly the aggressor and taking it o Cotto. the end of round 10 Cotto came back storng but You have ot give round 10 to Mosley based on how it started. I think the referee really helped Cotto out by stopping Shanes great start to round 10, and drying the matt. Cotto was in some trouble at that point. Round 11 was a good round I give to Cotto, and round 12 was a round Cotto gave away....So IMO I had Shane eeking out a decsion based on the championship rounds, but Hey I am Cool with Cotto winning as he fought a great fight.

I think one thing he will learn though and he got off the hook this time, He will not versus Mayweather. That is just because another fighter alters their style, dont give away 2 rounds adjusting to it as he did in this fight. He really was taking control of this fight, then left Shane off the hook by allowing him to simply bounce right in front of him.

[MaFu MoFo]

Hmmm so what many of you are saying is that It could be SCORED for Cotto close or even a draw but impossible for Mosley to win it. Hmmmmmm

I think differently. I can agree with the decision, I also can see it a draw as it most likely should have been. I can also see it for Mosley, as he was the aggessor in the 2nd half of the fight, the championship rounds.

Common sense tells you based on scoring if it was dead equal in punches landed and Mosley landed LESS jabs, and Mosley was the aggessor & many if not everyone says it was very close and could have been a draw then it is very understandable if someone sees it a close win for Mosley.

I break it down like this. Cotto had the more effective jab and through the 1st 6 rounds I had him ahead by 2 points and was really starting to wear Mosley down, and inflict himself on shane. 7the and 8th Shane really altered the fight with his bounding and Cotto sat back and watched more so and this took him out of his rhtyme with Mosley getting back in the fight. Rounds 9 and 10 where GREAT GREAT GREAT STUFF. Shane sensing something was wrong with Cotto and started backing Cotto up seizing command of the fight, clearly the aggressor and taking it o Cotto. the end of round 10 Cotto came back storng but You have ot give round 10 to Mosley based on how it started. I think the referee really helped Cotto out by stopping Shanes great start to round 10, and drying the matt. Cotto was in some trouble at that point. Round 11 was a good round I give to Cotto, and round 12 was a round Cotto gave away....So IMO I had Shane eeking out a decsion based on the championship rounds, but Hey I am Cool with Cotto winning as he fought a great fight.

I think one thing he will learn though and he got off the hook this time, He will not versus Mayweather. That is just because another fighter alters their style, dont give away 2 rounds adjusting to it as he did in this fight. He really was taking control of this fight, then left Shane off the hook by allowing him to simply bounce right in front of him.

Great post, I agree with you on most of it. Just look at my score round by round. But you are dead right when you say cotto must pick up his game and take it to a better level if he is going to beat GayWeather. Specially when Floyd needs to be KO in order to lose a fight. Ref and judges will side with him. This fight with Mosley showed Cotto working to that end. He is better than before. And don't forget WW also got 2 dangerous opponents in Paul Williams (reach and speed) and Kermit Cintron (devastating power). I guess all of them are aware of each others "pro's and con's" and are working to find a way to beat the other.

[crillz]

I see this fight more and more, the more I see the fight the more SURE I am that Cotto won, I gave Mosley only 4 rounds which were the 3rd, 8th, 9th and 10th, Cotto just outdid the man, people just give Shane the benefit of the doubt maybe due to preference? maybe scoring criteria? maybe, but one thing is for sure if Mosley didn't lose the fight he CERTAINLY didn't win it neither.. to me it was crystal like salt clear but to many on here they saw a draw, I don't see how thats possible BUT I can't change peoples minds, I feel 100% sure Cotto won the fight.. the most Mosley can utter though is a draw, thats the most he could have done in that fight BUT Cotto showed more versatility, he out did Mosley in ways that when those close rounds came you just had to give it to Cotto..

ring generalship and unexpected Boxing skills came out of the expected "brawler", he schooled Shane Mosley and thats something that no man Shane's size could say they have done, he hurt Shane but didn't phase him, those shots got to Shane and just overall even though Shane threw more and landed more power shots it was the significance of when and how Cotto landed his shots, factor that in plus the jab and his outside work then Cotto clearly took them close ass rounds, Shane just couldn't wreck him, just as I predicted that flurry style of Shane would crumble against Cotto, Cotto just ain't the type of guy you can do **** like that to, he'll switch up before he fights his opponents fight, that was Oscar's problem, not using his jab enough and too willing to exchange so the quicker, smaller Mosley ate him up but with Cotto you had a Boxer using his jab, thats all it takes to beat Shane, just overall good Boxing skills to neutralize his speed and precise punching which BTW is the definition of Cotto.. I don't see what some of you guys see, I just don't.. 100

[Gato2012]

Oh Larry Merchant said that?

**** then tale back everything I ever said abot me thinking Cotto won! If Merchant said that then damn, the decision of the fight should be changed, the fight declared a draw, and the judges all fined.

WHO GIVES A *** WHAT MERCHANT THINKS? You threw his name in this thread like Larry Merchant is ***ing Nastradamus, that ni9ga cant even talk. Last night....Bob Papa, "You didnt like him in that last round Larry?" ......about 3 hours later Merchany: "I liked him i just didnt think he won it" Merchants an idiot. HBO guys love Mosley anyway.