Guzman is the best junior lightweight IMO!!!!!

[slicksouthpaw16]

Guzman is not JMM, thinking of it Guzman is like more of a Roy Jones than PBF; evading punches with their body. JMM is what you call a real boxer/counterpuncher type of a fighter. That kind of style can beat PAC. But Guzman with his slower photocopy of Roy Jones is perfect for PAC. Try evading punches by sidestepping and hands down against PAC and its lights out. Guzman cant do to PAC what he did to Soto. PAC is fast with his feet and can keep up with Guzman. And PAC unorthodox / lunging style will catch Guzman.

and Soto hits harder than Pac so its not like Guzman can't take his shots.

[EeZz]

PAC is a one dimensional fighter. Fighters like Guzman that can do everything, will take advantage of that. Guzman has the perfect style to beat him. basically all he has to worry about is that straight left over and over again from Pac. He will roll his shoulder and neutralize Pacs shots and counter him. He would make Pac look bad. I would pick Guzman by UD.

That one dimensional PAC of 2004 is only needed to beat Guzman. I repeat Guzman is not JMM, you cant evade PAC punches and counter by just moving your body ala Roy Jones Jr; PAC would just backstep away then lunging to catch Guzman. Its not that difficult to think of that scenario. When PAC is cutting the ring plus with his "lunging" style you have no time to do a roy jones jr you would knock the **** out. The only thing you can do is counter him like JMM, but is Guzman a counterpuncher? And in speed imo PAC is faster, he can keep up with Guzman. And Soto's "BY THE BOOK" style is perfect for GUZMAN.

[EeZz]

and Soto hits harder than Pac so its not like Guzman can't take his shots.

IMO SOTO and PAC power is the same, but plus PAC speed. ZZZZzzzzz

[slicksouthpaw16]

That one dimensional PAC of 2004 is only needed to beat Guzman. I repeat Guzman is not JMM, you cant evade PAC punches and counter by just moving your body ala Roy Jones Jr; PAC would just backstep away then lunging to catch Guzman. Its not that difficult to think of that scenario. When PAC is cutting the ring plus with his "lunging" style you have no time to do a roy jones jr you would knock the **** out. The only thing you can do is counter him like JMM, but is Guzman a counterpuncher? And in speed imo PAC is faster, he can keep up with Guzman. And Soto's "BY THE BOOK" style is perfect for GUZMAN.

Not the Pac of 2004, i mean if they fought now. (IMO Guzman would beat him at any time) and is Guzman a counter puncher!!!!? man did you watch the fight? thats was what Guzman was doing to Soto all night. countering him and making him look ******. he was rolling off the ropes and still catching Soto with shots. of course he is a counter puncher. i like Pac and i think hes a very good fighter, but its just a matter of time until either Guzman or Marquez gets to him. and in no way is Pac faster than Guzman. but that your opinion.

[EeZz]

Not the Pac of 2004, i mean if they fought now. (IMO Guzman would beat him at any time) and is Guzman a counter puncher!!!!? man did you watch the fight? thats was what Guzman was doing to Soto all night. countering him and making him look ******. he was rolling off the ropes and still catching Soto with shots. of course he is a counter puncher. i like Pac and i think hes a very good fighter, but its just a matter of time until either Guzman or Marquez gets to him. and in no way is Pac faster than Guzman. but that your opinion.

PAC of 2004 is enough to beat Guzman and even JMM will beat him. Counter puncher is like JMM but you have different views of what a counter puncher is. Soto's " by the book" style is perfect for Guzman, but its a different story against PAC's style and speed. You cant do a Roy Jones Jr agaisnt PAC, or else Zzzzz. You cant really sidestep and backstep to a UD agaisnt PAC, he's way too fast and easily keep up with you. PBF and JMM is different though, their style can beat PAC. PBF with his stand in the pocket inboxing/counterpunching style and his copied ring generalship is more what PAC can handle. And against JMM with his boxer/counterpuncher style will give PAC problems, and JMM somewhat a brawler now trying to be exciting and that will be his downfall. BUT PAC since 2004 is way different than PAC of today. Both JMM and PAC defeat Guzman.

[slicksouthpaw16]

PAC of 2004 is enough to beat Guzman and even JMM will beat him. Counter puncher is like JMM but you have different views of what a counter puncher is. Soto's " by the book" style is perfect for Guzman, but its a different story against PAC's style and speed. You cant do a Roy Jones Jr agaisnt PAC, or else Zzzzz. You cant really sidestep and backstep to a UD agaisnt PAC, he's way too fast and easily keep up with you. PBF and JMM is different though, their style can beat PAC. PBF with his stand in the pocket inboxing/counterpunching style and his copied ring generalship is more what PAC can handle. And against JMM with his boxer/counterpuncher style will give PAC problems, and JMM somewhat a brawler now trying to be exciting and that will be his downfall. BUT PAC since 2004 is way different than PAC of today. Both JMM and PAC defeat Guzman.

i don't have much points now but by next year when these fights are made, i will. we should bet to solve this. if this fight is made, i'll take Guzman over Pac.

[The Surgeon]

Even the haters can't take nothing away from his victory. He beat a top good fighter who was in his prime. plus he beat him convincingly. I honestly don't see anybody down there that could beat him. He would even make PAC look bad.

I Agree, ive rated him the best since i 1st seen him
Didnt catch last nites fight, its on next week over here - was he awsum? Good fight?

[slicksouthpaw16]

I Agree, ive rated him the best since i 1st seen him
Didnt catch last nites fight, its on next week over here - was he awsum? Good fight?

man he was a beast!!!! he won by wide UD and showcased all of his skills. he countered and boxed very well. at one point, he was even holding on to the ropes and still landing counter shots on Soto. he put on a great performance.

[The Surgeon]

PAC of 2004 is enough to beat Guzman and even JMM will beat him. Counter puncher is like JMM but you have different views of what a counter puncher is. Soto's " by the book" style is perfect for Guzman, but its a different story against PAC's style and speed. You cant do a Roy Jones Jr agaisnt PAC, or else Zzzzz. You cant really sidestep and backstep to a UD agaisnt PAC, he's way too fast and easily keep up with you. PBF and JMM is different though, their style can beat PAC. PBF with his stand in the pocket inboxing/counterpunching style and his copied ring generalship is more what PAC can handle. And against JMM with his boxer/counterpuncher style will give PAC problems, and JMM somewhat a brawler now trying to be exciting and that will be his downfall. BUT PAC since 2004 is way different than PAC of today. Both JMM and PAC defeat Guzman.

U thought Soto would beat em too!!!! Now pay ur points up *****!!!
Tell u what just call it 10K since uve only got 16k mate its no problem

[The Surgeon]

man he was a beast!!!! he won by wide UD and showcased all of his skills. he countered and boxed very well. at one point, he was even holding on to the ropes and still landing counter shots on Soto. he put on a great performance.

Sweet! Its time the world took notice of Joan Guzman and gave him his props! I just hope things work out and he can be more active!