Ranking the Welter Division

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  • mrrupo
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    #31
    Originally posted by MaFu MoFo
    Dude, I met a cousin of his at "La Picadera" in San Juan, PR. I had not met with him again. he was surprised to meet a Kermit Fan since it is all about Tito and Cotto in the Island. I am talking years ago when he first appeared at a NBC fight night. I had fowllow his career since then. I remeber his corner yelling at him; "Puņeta!!! No noquees tan rapido, nadie va a querrer pelear contigo!". That was heard loud and clear on night TV. Very funny.


    I had been wanting to ask for a while. Kermit has needed medical attention and not so sure about "surgery" on his wrists since his punches too hard. How are the wrists holding now???
    From what i understand, everything is sorted out with his wrists and hands. I know main events has him on their permanent payroll, so that he doesnt have to work outside of boxing. Maybe they got him in with a top hand specialist or something like that??

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    • Migs
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      #32
      I feel like Hatton and DLH need to be removed from this WW ranking. They aren't true 147lb welterweights. They both fight in different divisions more often than not.

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      • Ringo
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        #33
        Looks like quite a few people are posting respectable, sound opinions. Then again, looks like there are a few trolls. I think the true state of the welterweight division will unfold after this year, probably middle of next year. With the year boxing has produced, its way too up-in-the-air to say who's the best in the division; too many things can happen. If Hatton beats Floyd (Hopefully), if Cotto loses to or narrowly beats his next opponent, if Cintron loses (again), Margarito could go on a rampage, Williams could lose (not likely). If any of this stuff happens then previous victories and opponents have to get re-evaluated. By mid-next year, hopefully it'll look something like:

        1. Floyd/Hatton (I put him up at 1 because he will continue to to be talked about, actively, if he wins or loses controversially to Floyd).
        2. Floyd (If he loses)
        3. Williams
        4. Cotto / Cintron
        5. Hatton (if he loses obviously)
        6. Margarito

        Just my two cents.

        P.S. - Williams reminds me of Kevin Garnett
        Last edited by Ringo; 11-14-2007, 02:48 PM.

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        • raysan
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          #34
          Originally posted by MaFu MoFo
          Yes. I forgot about Berto, and also add Mathesse in the lower racket mix.

          Matthysse just got knocked out again last month, he's no where close anymore.

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          • AntonTheMeh
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            #35
            Originally posted by Ringo
            Looks like quite a few people are posting respectable, sound opinions. Then again, looks like there are a few trolls. I think the true state of the welterweight division will unfold after this year, probably middle of next year. With the year boxing has produced, its way too up-in-the-air to say who's the best in the division; too many things can happen. If Hatton beats Floyd (Hopefully), if Cotto loses to or narrowly beats his next opponent, if Cintron loses (again), Margarito could go on a rampage, Williams could lose (not likely). If any of this stuff happens then previous victories and opponents have to get re-evaluated. By mid-next year, hopefully it'll look something like:

            1. Floyd/Hatton (I put him up at 1 because he will continue to to be talked about, actively, if he wins or loses controversially to Floyd).
            2. Floyd (If he loses)
            3. Williams
            4. Cotto / Cintron
            5. Hatton (if he loses obviously)
            6. Margarito

            Just my two cents.

            P.S. - Williams reminds me of Kevin Garnett

            take your two cents back.
            here a penny for your thoughts

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            • MaFu MoFo
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              #36
              Originally posted by raysan
              Matthysse just got knocked out again last month, he's no where close anymore.
              My bad... he sucks then.

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              • ThaHorseman
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                #37
                1. Floyd
                2. Cotto
                -. DLH- Would beat almost any WW out there if he trained hard like he did for PBF
                3. Mosley- Behind DLH because he lost the speed that he used to win their 1st 2 fights
                4. Williams
                5. Margarito
                6. Cintron- Might actually be better than 6th since Steward took over, but needs to prove it
                7. Judah- Say what you want, but he can beat anyone from #4 down if his mind is right
                -. Hatton- Only fight at 147 is the reason he's so low, but he's much better than a lot of these guys
                8. Clottey- Tough fight for anyone
                9. Collazo
                10. Lots of guys who could prove to be in the mix.

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                • Run
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ThaHorseman
                  1. Floyd
                  2. Cotto
                  -. DLH- Would beat almost any WW out there if he trained hard like he did for PBF
                  3. Mosley- Behind DLH because he lost the speed that he used to win their 1st 2 fights
                  4. Williams
                  5. Margarito
                  6. Cintron- Might actually be better than 6th since Steward took over, but needs to prove it
                  7. Judah- Say what you want, but he can beat anyone from #4 down if his mind is right
                  -. Hatton- Only fight at 147 is the reason he's so low, but he's much better than a lot of these guys
                  8. Clottey- Tough fight for anyone
                  9. Collazo
                  10. Lots of guys who could prove to be in the mix.
                  Yeah that's pretty good.

                  As a fighter I rate Hatton on a top ten P4P list. But no way should he be rated as a top five Welterweight. That's absurd.



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                  • clemente
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                    #39
                    welterweight is definately where its at.
                    i would definately like to see quintana and collazo fight again, maybe against each other.

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                    • MaFu MoFo
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by clemente
                      welterweight is definately where its at.
                      i would definately like to see quintana and collazo fight again, maybe against each other.
                      Hey! That's a great fight. It beats Vargas-Mayorga by far. The winner of Collazo-Quintana should fight the winner between Margarito-Judah or better yet a Margarito-Hatton.. And there we all get a true contender to fight for a belt and whom ever got them. Mosley most likely retire. DLH should retire.

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