Ranking the Welter Division

[raysan]

1.Floyd Mayweather
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Oscar DelaHoya
4.Shane Mosely
5.Zab Judah
6.Kermit Cintron
7.JCC jr
8.Ricky Hatton
9.Paul Williams
10.Antonio Margarito

ha okay okay my bad, some of my rankings had more to do with my favs than the best but if all the other organizations can do it then so can i, ha

[Haglerwins]

Floyd
Williams
Cotto
Margarito
Cintron

[MaFu MoFo]

I lost all respect for Cintron after watching him cry like a little girl after Margarito stopped him.

Dude, you have not seen all the fights. Kermit Cintron cries whether he win or loses. The guy is a bizarre combo of a "sensitive-natural-born-killer". If you don't believe me, go ahead and watch other older fights. There is one were he KOs this other guy, who is left hangging on the ropes. Very funny...

How does beating Quintana give you an edge over Floyd Mayweather, who already beat (a better) Judah, Baldomir for the lineal championship, and the legendary Oscar DLH? Not to mention his upcoming fight with Hatton.

Ok, Baldomir is ******ed, plus got the biggest head in the business. I think it may taken a hammer to KO this guy. If you respect Baldomir as a challenging boxer, well... we have an entire different opinion on who are the real deals. Judah understimate him and obviously showed he did not had what it takes to KO such a big head. Did I already mentioned Baldomir probably got Acromegaly??? He beated Judah, and lost to MayWeather. Then again, he will lose to another 12 welters out there. At least Quintana had a belt and was "UnDefeated".

Now, in the case of Judah, you said; "A better Judah"... WHY??? Why? Why? (cause SONOFISIS said so...) I won't waste my time arguing such a lame excuse. "Who KO Judah??? Not "the best P4P", who fights 2nd rated like Baldomir, and Hatton.

Last but not least, the fight agaisnt Oscar De La Hoya was a joke. How can you even mention this ****ty fight. I swear to God that both of them practiced the fight and trained together for a WWE-type of show. The fight was ****. I will not pay for fight 2. PLUS, IN THEIR PRIMES, Mosley beated OSCAR TWICE!!! Years later, Cotto beats Mosley, while Mayweather beats Oscar. Who got the edge once again????



Unless, Cotto and Mayweather fight each other, we will get too see who the best is after the Cintron-Williams fight. Whomever beats the winner of Cintron-Williams should be considered the best one if they don't fight each other.

[AntonTheMeh]

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Only had three fights at 147, but undoubtedly is the most skilled fighter in the division. Fast hands, accurate delivery, great defense and tremendous stamina make him the favorite in any potential welterweight match-up. I think he beats Hatton in a surprisingly close decision, however, as Ricky ties him up and frustrates him.

2. Miguel Cotto
Probably the most versatile man in the division. He flat out out-boxed Sugar Shane throughout the opening rounds of their bout on Saturday, scoring regularly with a stiff accurate jab. Whispers of a glass chin are likely to disappear after taking several hard right hands from Shane and showing no visible reactions. Oh yeah, he's still probably the best body puncher in the sport.

3. Shane Mosley
May not fight again, but as of right now, I have him as the third best fighter in the division. Showed handspeed, power and toughness in his close loss to Cotto. Mosley's performance would have earned him a win against just about any other opponent. I'm not sure why he's dropped so far in so many people's rankings. The fight was exciting, but I don't think a rematch with Cotto is in order.

4. Paul Williams
Has a nice win over Margarito to his name, although the fight was close and several at ringside had the bout scored for Antonio. Flashy punch output is fun to watch. I think he is slightly overrated at the moment, although his size and workrate make him a tough matchup for anyone despite his lack of power and unpolished skills.

5. Antonio Margarito
Started slow against Paul Williams in July and paid for it with a decision loss. I think he would win a rematch with Williams and I think he could give Cotto a serious challenge. His first round knockout of Golden Johnson was impressive, however it's easy to start fast against a lightweight moving up two weight classes. He needs to find a nice happy medium between the Williams fight and the Johnson fight.

very good half assessment.

[kayjay]

Mayweather
Cotto
Hatton
De La Hoya
Mosley
Williams
Marg
Cintron

[PRboxingfan]

Clottey shouldn't be considered a pretender. Clottey is a danger to any WW not named Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Also, Urkal shouldn't be ranked at all, especially since he just retired.

[MaFu MoFo]

Floyd Mayweather Jr
1. Miguel Cotto
2. Paul Williams
3. Joshua Clottey
4. Isaac Hlatswayo
5. Antonio Margarito
6. Shane Mosley
7. Jackson Osei Bonsu
8. Kermit Cintron
9. Andre Berto
10. Alfonso Gomez

Yes. I forgot about Berto, and also add Mathesse in the lower racket mix.

[MaFu MoFo]

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Only had three fights at 147, but undoubtedly is the most skilled fighter in the division. Fast hands, accurate delivery, great defense and tremendous stamina make him the favorite in any potential welterweight match-up. I think he beats Hatton in a surprisingly close decision, however, as Ricky ties him up and frustrates him.

2. Miguel Cotto
Probably the most versatile man in the division. He flat out out-boxed Sugar Shane throughout the opening rounds of their bout on Saturday, scoring regularly with a stiff accurate jab. Whispers of a glass chin are likely to disappear after taking several hard right hands from Shane and showing no visible reactions. Oh yeah, he's still probably the best body puncher in the sport.

3. Shane Mosley
May not fight again, but as of right now, I have him as the third best fighter in the division. Showed handspeed, power and toughness in his close loss to Cotto. Mosley's performance would have earned him a win against just about any other opponent. I'm not sure why he's dropped so far in so many people's rankings. The fight was exciting, but I don't think a rematch with Cotto is in order.

4. Paul Williams
Has a nice win over Margarito to his name, although the fight was close and several at ringside had the bout scored for Antonio. Flashy punch output is fun to watch. I think he is slightly overrated at the moment, although his size and workrate make him a tough matchup for anyone despite his lack of power and unpolished skills.

5. Antonio Margarito
Started slow against Paul Williams in July and paid for it with a decision loss. I think he would win a rematch with Williams and I think he could give Cotto a serious challenge. His first round knockout of Golden Johnson was impressive, however it's easy to start fast against a lightweight moving up two weight classes. He needs to find a nice happy medium between the Williams fight and the Johnson fight.

I'm too tired to give commentary, but here's my 6-10:

6. Kermit Cintron
7. Joshua Clottey
8. Zab Judah
9. Isaac Hlatswayo
10. Andre Berto

I respect your point of view. good post.

[mrrupo]

Dude, you have not seen all the fights. Kermit Cintron cries whether he win or loses. The guy is a bizarre combo of a "sensitive-natural-born-killer". If you don't believe me, go ahead and watch other older fights. There is one were he KOs this other guy, who is left hangging on the ropes. Very funny...

Yeah, I have been watching Cintron fight for years and he cries after most fights. Just an emotional guy, i guess. I went to high school with him, and cant remember if he was that way about wrestling, too... No matter, i dont think it makes one bit of difference. If a man is confident enough to show his emotion, good for him. I don't think it is a sign of weakness, quite the opposite, in fact. Thinking any differently is simply a bunch of macho bull**** thinking that men dont cry and have feelings. that's the thinking that leads men to be, on average, more likely to suffer from depression and rage.

[MaFu MoFo]

Yeah, I have been watching Cintron fight for years and he cries after most fights. Just an emotional guy, i guess. I went to high school with him, and cant remember if he was that way about wrestling, too... No matter, i dont think it makes one bit of difference. If a man is confident enough to show his emotion, good for him. I don't think it is a sign of weakness, quite the opposite, in fact. Thinking any differently is simply a bunch of macho bull**** thinking that men dont cry and have feelings. that's the thinking that leads men to be, on average, more likely to suffer from depression and rage.

Dude, I met a cousin of his at "La Picadera" in San Juan, PR. I had not met with him again. he was surprised to meet a Kermit Fan since it is all about Tito and Cotto in the Island. I am talking years ago when he first appeared at a NBC fight night. I had fowllow his career since then. I remeber his corner yelling at him; "Puņeta!!! No noquees tan rapido, nadie va a querrer pelear contigo!". That was heard loud and clear on night TV. Very funny.


I had been wanting to ask for a while. Kermit has needed medical attention and not so sure about "surgery" on his wrists since his punches too hard. How are the wrists holding now???