the 17 real champions...and where their from

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  • Welter_Skelter
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    #11
    Originally posted by britbulldog
    Here is a breakdown of which country has the most champions, and when i say champion i mean doesnt just hold a belt but is the recognised best at their weight or hold the title of the man who beat the man

    17 weights:-
    5 = U.S.A
    3 = U.K
    2 = PHILIPPINES, MEXICO, JAPAN
    1 = P.RICO, UKRAINE, INDONESIA

    HW = UKR - Klitschko
    C = UK - Haye
    LH = USA - Hopkins
    SM = UK - Calzaghe
    M = USA - Pavlik
    LM = USA - Spinks
    W = USA - Mayweather
    LW = UK - Hatton
    L = USA - J Diaz
    SF = PHI - Pacquiao
    F = IND - John
    SB = MEX - I Vazquez
    B = JAP - Hasegawa
    SFL = MEX - Castillo
    FL = PHI - Donaire
    LFL = P.RICO - Calderon
    S = JAP - Niida

    Only 8 different nations represented !!!
    Well see.. this is still flawed... As you say.."Those recognised" as the best... BUT BY WHOM??? See most Americans will recognise their men.. Most Brits will say it's Brits.. of course the Mexicans will say it's their guy... Who gets the FINAL say???

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    • -CANE-
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      #12
      Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
      Well see.. this is still flawed... As you say.."Those recognised" as the best... BUT BY WHOM??? See most Americans will recognise their men.. Most Brits will say it's Brits.. of course the Mexicans will say it's their guy... Who gets the FINAL say???
      Britain get's the final say because it has GREAT before it. (Joke)

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      • Jim Jeffries
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        #13
        Originally posted by msagrain
        Joel Casamayor would beat Juan Díaz
        Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh.

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        • -CANE-
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          #14
          Casamayor was awful and needs to steer clear of Diaz

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          • warp1432
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            #15
            I'd say Kyowa is a lot better then Niida and that Forrest is really the true champion at 154 since Spinks moved up somewhat.

            Oh and Marquez is the champ at Jr.Lightweight. Pac doesn't even have a belt.

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            • SkillspayBills
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              #16
              Originally posted by msagrain
              wrong!!!!


              Clinton Woods or joe c would kill b-hop

              Sergiy Dzinziruk would beat spinks but the agen mayweather would beat them both.

              Joel Casamayor would beat Juan Díaz

              also who is Castillo?????????????? for super fetherweight? if you mean José Luis Castillo he never has been rated at that weight hes lightweight.
              Did you SEE his last performance.

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              • revs1227
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                #17
                i dont think he was talkin ab who would beat the champs he was just postin the champs as of now ..good post ..isnt pr =usa?

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                •  mickeyb
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by msagrain
                  wrong!!!!


                  Clinton Woods or joe c would kill b-hop

                  Sergiy Dzinziruk would beat spinks but the agen mayweather would beat them both.

                  Joel Casamayor would beat Juan Díaz

                  also who is Castillo?????????????? for super fetherweight? if you mean José Luis Castillo he never has been rated at that weight hes lightweight.
                  it's MARTIN CASTILLO and i had him at SFL weight, everyone knows thats Super FLy not Super FLeather !!

                  as for Woods and Calzaghe beating Hopkins, Joe C might well beat him but as he's never fought there how can he be ranked above him ???? Woods has to beat him to be ranked above him imo, and imo that wont ever happen.

                  it was just a list of who's generally recognised as the real champ, regardless of who can beat who.

                  so it's not WRONG !!!! it's a fact. i'm not saying i agree that each one is the best at each weight but it's probably a good reference as to who would hold the belt if there was only one belt per weight available

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                  • SpeedKillz
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by msagrain
                    wrong!!!!


                    Clinton Woods or joe c would kill b-hop

                    Sergiy Dzinziruk would beat spinks but the agen mayweather would beat them both.

                    Joel Casamayor would beat Juan Díaz

                    also who is Castillo?????????????? for super fetherweight? if you mean José Luis Castillo he never has been rated at that weight hes lightweight.
                    no way dude. diaz would smoke casamayor. did u see casamyors fight on the cotto undercard against santa cruz. he looks terrible. diaz would not stop coming forward and he would probly tko casaymayor. no way joel could beat diaz no way!

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                    • TonyJ
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                      Well see.. this is still flawed... As you say.."Those recognised" as the best... BUT BY WHOM??? See most Americans will recognise their men.. Most Brits will say it's Brits.. of course the Mexicans will say it's their guy... Who gets the FINAL say???
                      You can make this statement for american boxers like Spinks, Diaz (i also think that he deserved to be nr 1, exspecially if you compare his last fight to casa's medicore performance) or even FLoyd (he is the nr. 1 in my book but beating a yourneyman like Baldo doen't make him champ) BUT all the british boxers have unified their divisions and Calzaghe is the undisputed SMW champion winning all 4 belts. So there is no argument against him being the only champ.

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