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  • mickeyb
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    #1

    the 17 real champions...and where their from

    Here is a breakdown of which country has the most champions, and when i say champion i mean doesnt just hold a belt but is the recognised best at their weight or hold the title of the man who beat the man

    17 weights:-
    5 = U.S.A
    3 = U.K
    2 = PHILIPPINES, MEXICO, JAPAN
    1 = P.RICO, UKRAINE, INDONESIA

    HW = UKR - Klitschko
    C = UK - Haye
    LH = USA - Hopkins
    SM = UK - Calzaghe
    M = USA - Pavlik
    LM = USA - Spinks
    W = USA - Mayweather
    LW = UK - Hatton
    L = USA - J Diaz
    SF = PHI - Pacquiao
    F = IND - John
    SB = MEX - I Vazquez
    B = JAP - Hasegawa
    SFL = MEX - Castillo
    FL = PHI - Donaire
    LFL = P.RICO - Calderon
    S = JAP - Niida

    Only 8 different nations represented !!!
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    #2
    Originally posted by britbulldog
    Here is a breakdown of which country has the most champions, and when i say champion i mean doesnt just hold a belt but is the recognised best at their weight or hold the title of the man who beat the man

    17 weights:-
    5 = U.S.A
    3 = U.K
    2 = PHILIPPINES, MEXICO, JAPAN
    1 = P.RICO, UKRAINE, INDONESIA

    HW = UKR - Klitschko
    C = UK - Haye
    LH = USA - Hopkins
    SM = UK - Calzaghe
    M = USA - Pavlik
    LM = USA - Spinks
    W = USA - Mayweather
    LW = UK - Hatton
    L = USA - J Diaz
    SF = PHI - Pacquiao
    F = IND - John
    SB = MEX - I Vazquez
    B = JAP - Hasegawa
    SFL = MEX - Castillo
    FL = PHI - Donaire
    LFL = P.RICO - Calderon
    S = JAP - Niida

    Only 8 different nations represented !!!
    good to know

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    • -CANE-
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      #3
      Originally posted by britbulldog
      Here is a breakdown of which country has the most champions, and when i say champion i mean doesnt just hold a belt but is the recognised best at their weight or hold the title of the man who beat the man

      17 weights:-
      5 = U.S.A
      3 = U.K
      2 = PHILIPPINES, MEXICO, JAPAN
      1 = P.RICO, UKRAINE, INDONESIA

      HW = UKR - Klitschko
      C = UK - Haye
      LH = USA - Hopkins
      SM = UK - Calzaghe
      M = USA - Pavlik
      LM = USA - Spinks
      W = USA - Mayweather
      LW = UK - Hatton
      L = USA - J Diaz
      SF = PHI - Pacquiao
      F = IND - John
      SB = MEX - I Vazquez
      B = JAP - Hasegawa
      SFL = MEX - Castillo
      FL = PHI - Donaire
      LFL = P.RICO - Calderon
      S = JAP - Niida

      Only 8 different nations represented !!!

      MMMmmmmmm Interesting.

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      • msagrain
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        #4
        wrong!!!!


        Clinton Woods or joe c would kill b-hop

        Sergiy Dzinziruk would beat spinks but the agen mayweather would beat them both.

        Joel Casamayor would beat Juan Díaz

        also who is Castillo?????????????? for super fetherweight? if you mean José Luis Castillo he never has been rated at that weight hes lightweight.

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        • Mike Tyson77
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          #5
          U. S. and A.!!

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          • sonofisis
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            #6
            Originally posted by msagrain
            wrong!!!!


            Clinton Woods or joe c would kill b-hop

            Sergiy Dzinziruk would beat spinks but the agen mayweather would beat them both.

            Joel Casamayor would beat Juan Díaz

            also who is Castillo?????????????? for super fetherweight? if you mean José Luis Castillo he never has been rated at that weight hes lightweight.
            Your hypothetical reasoning doesn't at all mean he's wrong.. All of those people are the Champs of their division because they beat the best or #1 ranked in that division, regardless of who you think can beat them. Stop acting like a child.. B-Hop would make Calzaghe look pedestrian btw..

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            • msagrain
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              #7
              Originally posted by sonofisis
              Your hypothetical reasoning doesn't at all mean he's wrong.. All of those people are the Champs of their division because they beat the best or #1 ranked in that division, regardless of who you think can beat them. Stop acting like a child.. B-Hop would make Calzaghe look pedestrian btw..
              thats why b-hop keeps ducking joe is it.

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              • kayjay
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                #8
                Originally posted by sonofisis
                Your hypothetical reasoning doesn't at all mean he's wrong.. All of those people are the Champs of their division because they beat the best or #1 ranked in that division, regardless of who you think can beat them. Stop acting like a child.. B-Hop would make Calzaghe look pedestrian btw..
                Calzaghe is a better boxer than Hopkins, by a lot.

                Originally posted by msagrain
                wrong!!!!


                Clinton Woods or joe c would kill b-hop

                Sergiy Dzinziruk would beat spinks but the agen mayweather would beat them both.

                Joel Casamayor would beat Juan Díaz

                also who is Castillo?????????????? for super fetherweight? if you mean José Luis Castillo he never has been rated at that weight hes lightweight.
                Casamayor would not beat Diaz, you're strecthing it to make an argument against the US

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                • Steak
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                  #9
                  the UK is doing very well for themselves
                  wrong!!!!


                  Clinton Woods or joe c would kill b-hop

                  Sergiy Dzinziruk would beat spinks but the agen mayweather would beat them both.

                  Joel Casamayor would beat Juan Díaz

                  also who is Castillo?????????????? for super fetherweight? if you mean José Luis Castillo he never has been rated at that weight hes lightweight.
                  theres no way that Casamayor beats Juan at this point, didnt you see his performance against Santa Cruz?! Juan Diaz is now the #1 at Lightweight, he would bulldoze Casamayor

                  how would Clinton Woods destroy Hopkins? Ive heard that he didnt even deserve his victory over Glen in their last fight. Calzaghe might beat him, but you can only be a champion of one division at a time.

                  I dont know much about Serg to be honest. would he be considered better than Vernon Forrest, Oscar De La Hoya, and Spinks?? I see he has a win over Daniel Santos, and I consider that a pretty damn good win.

                  and there are other Castillos at different weight classes, haha. common Mexican name.

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                  • TyrantT316
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                    HW = UKR - Klitschko - has made a case for himself beating top 10-15 contenders. However until he fights and beats one or two other HW titlist, it is hard to recognize him as #1.

                    LM = USA - Spinks - I think many recognize him #1 because of his name alone. However this is debatable. Just before Winky moved up, Ouma was looked at as Winky's #1 contender. Winky moves up, Ouma and Karmazin fight for the top spot. Karmazin wins. Spinks beats Karmazin. So it is debatable.

                    L = USA - J Diaz - debatable. Holds 3 belts and has been impressive. However Casamayor is coming from the Castillo/Corrales era. I don't think either is necessarily #1. They have to fight for it. Casamayor beat Corrales (III), however Castillo was "considered" linear champ when he vacated. But Casamayor and Corrales fought for that lineage and Casamayor came out on top. Funny, same thing happened after Floyd beat Castillo. He vacated, Castillo fought a few welterweight fights, moved back down and regained lineage with quality wins.

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