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    Southpaw Is How Big Of An Advantage?

    I actually made this thread 3 days ago but it got erased when I sent it so Ill try to remember all I wrote. I like Calzaghe and I think he is a very good fighter but Im surprised that no one brings up the Southpaw style when they talk about him and e****ally in the Kessler fight. To me, I actually think that Kessler kicks Calzaghe's ass if he wasnt a lefty. That was his biggest problem. Joe came straight at him with that Southpaw style and you could tell that Kessler couldnt figure it out.

    Its the same thing I say about Pac. These guys are definatly good fighters but because there a southpaw it goes up 2 notches and makes them much harder to beat. If you look at a guy like Pac it also really helps his power. No doubt he is a hard puncher but being a lefty makes his punches like twice as hard because you either never see his punch coming or you can see it and still cant find a way to get away from it because he's a lefty. Look at Wlad vs Sanders. He didnt know what to do. He knew the left was coming and still couldnt get away from it. It got so bad that he started pushing both arms out like scared people do and the punch would still crush him. That makes it hurt so much more. Against a lefty you can have perfect D or perfect range and still get hit clean. Foreman use to say that when you fight a lefty you have to be careful because you think that you stepped out of range but they can still hit you.

    If you watch the Tarver-Jones fight where he knocked him out, RJ played that punch perfectly. He threw a punch and then immediatly got into a defensive posture where he was basically standing in like a shoulder roll stance with the right hand over the side of his face. Its nearly impossible to get hit clean like that by a righty but Tarver landed on him flush and thats why it hurt so much more. In the MAB-Pac first fight the same thing happened. MAB was circling Pac and then would step back out of range. He saw Pac about to throw so he circled and stepped back and the punch missed. 2 seconds later MAB did the same exact thing which is what your supposed to do and Pac catches him flush on the jaw. You can tell that is shook MAB up because he just didnt think Pac could hit him in that spot because no one ever has. Then you look at a great techniqal fighter like JMM and see how Pac dropped him 3 times in the 1st round. Even the biggest Pac fan has to admit that it has a ton to do with him being a lefty. If he was a righty then he wouldnt have hit JMM with all those clean shots and if he did then they wouldnt hurt nearly as much because you can see them coming and brace for them.

    I was just trying to watch the Maruqez-Rock fight and before that the Guerrero was fighting. Again its the same thing. A Southpaw crushing a guy with a clean punch that he normally wouldnt get hit with. That is so huge of advantage. Being a lefty is an advantage in every sport but in boxing its a huge huge huge advantage. Calzaghe and Pac would be good fighters without it but this definatly makes them alot better. You could definatly tell that Kessler was mesmerized by it. The way Joe was putting pressure on him and coming at him with that backwards style. Look at Floyd. Floyd is probally one of the best defensive fighters weve ever seen. Its no coincedence that the 2 guys who probally hit him with the most flush shots and stunned him the most were Chop & Zab. If you do the shoulder roll D against a Lefty then your still completely open for a straight left. If your fighting a righty with that D and they throw a straight right then you can roll it and if they throw a left hook then you can catch it with your glove but if your fighting a lefty and they throw a straight left then it hits you square in the nose while your glove is on the side of your face. Thats why you saw Floyd walk Zab down but did it in a measured pace because he knew that he could walk into a blind punch.

    Mostly all orthodox fighters struggle against Lefty's. Some are pretty good against them. Hopkins right now is probally the best and thats why I would love to see him fight Calzaghe. The Southpaw style doesnt confuse him like it does everyone else. Another thing southpaws have problems with are other southpaws. Thats why I would also love to see Calzaghe fight a guy like Tarver or Dawson. If you look at Spinks he was killing everyone with that style but he ran up on Zab and struggled alot because Zab was also a lefty that wasnt fooled by him.
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    Imo it's the capability to switch between the 2 stances that makes it an advantage.

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #3
      How much of an advantage was being a lefty to the 10 lefties that Hopkins beat?

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      • Verstyle
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        I see an advantage in my corner when I fight a southpaw.As soon as he throws his jab,I usually slip it and give him a left hook to the body.ALL DAY.

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          Being a fast-punching southpaw, I can win a fight by simply keeping my right foot on the outside of my opponent's left and jabbing his head off. He can't punch me, he can't do anything and that's the way it would turn out against Lacy.
          Calzaghe in his autobiography.

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            #6
            Originally posted by gavinz1970
            How much of an advantage was being a lefty to the 10 lefties that Hopkins beat?
            No doubt that greatness is greatness. Just because your a lefty doesnt mean your guaranteed to beat anyone. My point is that if you take 2 guys who are exactly the same but one was a lefty and one was a righty then the lefty would be the harder guy to beat and probally by alot. Even though there exactly the same at everything, just because he's a southpaw would make him that much harder to beat and I bet that the lefty would beat some of the same guys that the righty lost to, even though there exactly the same

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              What does Calzaghes ridiculously fast hand speed and underrated power have anything to do with his stance? He is just a good boxer, if he was a righty he would still have beaten Kessler or any other fight he has fought. How does Calzaghes stance reflect his quick reflexes? Roy jones jr also has quick reflexes and he is orthodox.

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                #8
                Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
                I see an advantage in my corner when I fight a southpaw.As soon as he throws his jab,I usually slip it and give him a left hook to the body.ALL DAY.
                There are definatly things that work against a southpaw like the straight right but the lefty still has much more of an advantage even if not for nothing but the fact that he has fought righty's his whole life while a righty rarely fights a southpaw

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jayfelice
                  What does Calzaghes ridiculously fast hand speed and underrated power have anything to do with his stance? He is just a good boxer, if he was a righty he would still have beaten Kessler or any other fight he has fought. How does Calzaghes stance reflect his quick reflexes? Roy jones jr also has quick reflexes and he is orthodox.
                  Its still different though. Everyone has fought fast guys and guys with quick reflexes but when there coming from the opposite way then it definatly makes a difference. If you fight a righty 20 times in a row and then you fight a lefty, you dont think there's any kind of problem. You think its easy to all of assudden try to do things the opposite way? As a defender, you think its easy to block or see punches thats coming from the opposite angle? Its not

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by medium-deek
                    Calzaghe in his autobiography.
                    Thats what I mean. Calzaghe even knows it

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